On Thursday, September 01, 2011 Zooko O'Whielacronx wrote: > You would be more than welcome to jump in and help. Try following the > "quick start" instructions [2] and tell us how it works for you.
Okay, let's see: "Check if you already have an adequate version of Python installed... Unpack the zip file and cd into the top-level directory... Run python setup.py build... On Windows, the build step might tell you to open a new Command Prompt.. If the Tahoe-LAFS bin directory is not on your PATH, then in all the command lines below, specify the full path to bin/tahoe... To construct a client node, run "tahoe create-client", which will create ~/.tahoe to be the node's base directory. Acquire the introducer.furl (see below if you are running your own introducer, or use the one from the TestGrid page), and paste it after introducer.furl = in the [client] section of ~/.tahoe/tahoe.cfg. Then use "tahoe run ~/.tahoe". After that, the node should be off and running... By default, "tahoe create-client" creates a client-only node, that does not offer its disk space to other nodes. To configure other behavior, use "tahoe create-node"... To construct an introducer, create a new base directory for it (the name of the directory is up to you), cd into it, and run "tahoe create-introducer .". Now run the introducer using "tahoe start ."." Zooko, man... I love what you're doing, but you gotta be kidding. You want to use it with a few friends, or you want normal people to use it, too? This whole web site should say just this: "Run _setup.exe_. Use the drive Z: that will appear on your machine." The way it looks to me, only after you get installation down to this procedure (or something of comparable complexity - say, 19 words or less - you can start asking any other questions about why people are not using globally distributed P2P data archive. Of course, this stuff won't be sufficient for success - but it seems to be a necessary condition for one. Best wishes - S.Osokine. 2 Sep 2011. -----Original Message----- From: p2p-hackers-boun...@lists.zooko.com [mailto:p2p-hackers-boun...@lists.zooko.com]On Behalf Of Zooko O'Whielacronx Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:25 PM To: theory and practice of decentralized computer networks Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] A globally distributed peer-to-peer data archive On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Michael Rogers <m...@gmx.com> wrote: > > To be honest, I think you're asking the wrong question. It's a question I've also spent a long time asking, but it's the wrong one. Unfair resource allocation isn't what's preventing a global p2p filesystem from existing. I like the way you're thinking. > If you want to know what's actually standing in the way of a global p2p filesystem, try to persuade your technically minded friends to use Tahoe (or Freenet, or OceanStore, or CFS, or PAST, or FARSITE) for sharing files. Of the ones you listed only Freenet and Tahoe-LAFS are things you can use and are being actively developed, right? Also there is GNUnet. On the Tahoe-LAFS wiki we have a page of links to related projects [1]. > Make a note of the problems they run into and solve them all. This is something we're doing in the Tahoe-LAFS project, for example on our ticket #1024 "introductory docs are confusing and off-putting". You would be more than welcome to jump in and help. Try following the "quick start" instructions [2] and tell us how it works for you. > Repeat the process with your less technically minded friends. Once you've solved all their problems, open some champagne because you've achieved more than a decade's worth of p2p research. ;-) Heh heh. > After that, if your system's running into resource shortages, try displaying the contribution ratio in the corner of the screen with a polite reminder that higher ratios help to support the community. ;-) We have plans to do something along those lines, too: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/Ostrom Again, we'd love help! You can get major kudos points (which are redeemable for gratitude tokens and awesomeness levels) by doing some fairly simple hacks like "collect server capacities and put them on the welcome page" (ticket #648). On the other hand if Ostromism and warm fuzzy social encouragement isn't your thing, you might be able to get cold hard cash (U.S. Dollars or BitCoins) by contributing patches to Tahoe-LAFS in return for bounties. :-) Regards, Zooko [1] http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/RelatedProjects#OtherProjects [2] http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/browser/trunk/docs/quickstart.rst tickets mentioned in this letter: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1024# introductory docs are confusing and off-putting http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/648# collect server capacities and put them on the welcome page _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers
