On Friday, September 02, 2011 Will Holcomb wrote: > It should be: "click this link." http://mimis.dhappy.org/.../
Yep. That's what I meant by "Run _setup.exe_". It was my poor man's attempt to represent the web page hyperlink in plain text mail. Sorry for the confusion... Best wishes - S.Osokine. 2 Sep 2100. -----Original Message----- From: Will Holcomb [mailto:w...@dhappy.org] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:12 AM To: oso...@osokin.com; theory and practice of decentralized computer networks Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] A globally distributed peer-to-peer data archive It should be: "click this link." http://mimis.dhappy.org/.../ On Sep 2, 2011 12:13 PM, "Serguei Osokine" <oso...@osokin.com> wrote: > On Thursday, September 01, 2011 Zooko O'Whielacronx wrote: >> You would be more than welcome to jump in and help. Try following the >> "quick start" instructions [2] and tell us how it works for you. > > Okay, let's see: > > "Check if you already have an adequate version of Python installed... > > Unpack the zip file and cd into the top-level directory... > > Run python setup.py build... > > On Windows, the build step might tell you to open a new Command Prompt.. > > If the Tahoe-LAFS bin directory is not on your PATH, then in all the > command lines below, specify the full path to bin/tahoe... > > To construct a client node, run "tahoe create-client", which will create > ~/.tahoe to be the node's base directory. Acquire the introducer.furl > (see below if you are running your own introducer, or use the one from > the TestGrid page), and paste it after introducer.furl = in the [client] > section of ~/.tahoe/tahoe.cfg. Then use "tahoe run ~/.tahoe". After > that, the node should be off and running... > > By default, "tahoe create-client" creates a client-only node, that does > not offer its disk space to other nodes. To configure other behavior, > use "tahoe create-node"... > > To construct an introducer, create a new base directory for it (the name > of the directory is up to you), cd into it, and run > "tahoe create-introducer .". Now run the introducer using > "tahoe start ."." > > Zooko, man... I love what you're doing, but you gotta be kidding. You > want to use it with a few friends, or you want normal people to use it, > too? This whole web site should say just this: > > "Run _setup.exe_. Use the drive Z: that will appear on your machine." > > The way it looks to me, only after you get installation down to this > procedure (or something of comparable complexity - say, 19 words or > less - you can start asking any other questions about why people are > not using globally distributed P2P data archive. Of course, this stuff > won't be sufficient for success - but it seems to be a necessary > condition for one. > > Best wishes - > S.Osokine. > 2 Sep 2011. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: p2p-hackers-boun...@lists.zooko.com > [mailto:p2p-hackers-boun...@lists.zooko.com]On Behalf Of Zooko > O'Whielacronx > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:25 PM > To: theory and practice of decentralized computer networks > Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] A globally distributed peer-to-peer data > archive > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Michael Rogers <m...@gmx.com> wrote: >> >> To be honest, I think you're asking the wrong question. It's a question > I've also spent a long time asking, but it's the wrong one. Unfair resource > allocation isn't what's preventing a global p2p filesystem from existing. > > I like the way you're thinking. > >> If you want to know what's actually standing in the way of a global p2p > filesystem, try to persuade your technically minded friends to use Tahoe (or > Freenet, or OceanStore, or CFS, or PAST, or FARSITE) for sharing files. > > Of the ones you listed only Freenet and Tahoe-LAFS are things you can > use and are being actively developed, right? Also there is GNUnet. On > the Tahoe-LAFS wiki we have a page of links to related projects [1]. > >> Make a note of the problems they run into and solve them all. > > This is something we're doing in the Tahoe-LAFS project, for example > on our ticket #1024 "introductory docs are confusing and off-putting". > > You would be more than welcome to jump in and help. Try following the > "quick start" instructions [2] and tell us how it works for you. > >> Repeat the process with your less technically minded friends. Once you've > solved all their problems, open some champagne because you've achieved more > than a decade's worth of p2p research. ;-) > > Heh heh. > >> After that, if your system's running into resource shortages, try > displaying the contribution ratio in the corner of the screen with a polite > reminder that higher ratios help to support the community. ;-) > > We have plans to do something along those lines, too: > > http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/Ostrom > > Again, we'd love help! You can get major kudos points (which are > redeemable for gratitude tokens and awesomeness levels) by doing some > fairly simple hacks like "collect server capacities and put them on > the welcome page" (ticket #648). On the other hand if Ostromism and > warm fuzzy social encouragement isn't your thing, you might be able to > get cold hard cash (U.S. Dollars or BitCoins) by contributing patches > to Tahoe-LAFS in return for bounties. :-) > > Regards, > > Zooko > > [1] http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/RelatedProjects#OtherProjects > [2] http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/browser/trunk/docs/quickstart.rst > > tickets mentioned in this letter: > http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1024# introductory docs > are confusing and off-putting > http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/648# collect server > capacities and put them on the welcome page > _______________________________________________ > p2p-hackers mailing list > p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers > > _______________________________________________ > p2p-hackers mailing list > p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers
