On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Bill Broadley <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think WhisperPush's approach with TextSecure is interesting:
> * they partnered with cyanogen to because the default on a substantial
>   number of phones
> * It "just works" with any SMS user, granted no security/encryption
> * It "just works" securely with any other TextSecure user
> * It also "just works" on IOS, granted a user has to track it down
>   and install it.
>

TextSecure is neat, but so far as I can tell it doesn't "organically"
promote itself -- I need to know "out of band" that you use TextSecure
before I can use it with you, because the key exchange message is
unintelligible.  If it said something like "I'm using TextSecure; download
it from http://link to talk with me securely", then I could do a key
exchange with everyone without first asking if they know what it is.

Even better, it should automatically send this to everybody I talk with
first thing.  This way I wouldn't even need to think about it: just install
TextSecure and it would automatically discover which of my friends have it
installed and silently use it, and automatically encourage everybody who
*doesn't* already have it installed to do so.

ChatSecure looks pretty reasonable.  In a perfect world I'd hope for a
> client that:
> * fully decentralized, only has find the bit-torrent mainline DHT to
>   be able to find peers.  Why not use the existing 10M peers to help
>   find compatible peers.
>

Neat idea!  Granted, you still need to somehow bootstrap into the
BitTorrent DHT, but I like the idea of boostrapping one DHT off of another
pre-existing DHT.


> * allowing people to have a home node that trades bandwidth/storage
>   with peers and then a mobile node with the same crypto identify
>   that can leverage the home node and any of it's peers.
>
> Ideally I could have a 2TB disk ($100) at hosting my more important
> files (200GB) and earning the good will of it's peers by hosting
> encrypted blobs for them.  Leave it connected to a raspberry pi/beagle
> board black for $40.  Then as needed I can use the goodwill of those
> peers to record for whatever bandwidth/storage needs I have.
>

This is a really clever idea too!  I like the idea of my home connection
gradually building long-lived "friendships" with other home nodes, and then
my mobile node can call upon my home and all its friends whenever it needs.

-david
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