Are you aware of people using the "fair use percentage" and do you mean in some jurisdictions (which ones ?) it is allowed?

Maybe of interest, the find spies feature: http://lists.zooko.com/pipermail/p2p-hackers/2014-July/003283.html, processing the results right now, seems efficient, the only ones that you might not get are those just staying in specific swarms not seeking for anything else and behaving normally (do they really exist? Idea to catch them?) .

Regards,

Le 12/07/2014 06:07, Zenaan Harkness a écrit :
On 7/12/14, Aymeric Vitte <[email protected]> wrote:
Le 11/07/2014 20:13, David Barrett a écrit :
Is it really freeriding?
Yes, totally, please see below.

   I expect it does share as it downloads (I think it's impractical to
totally avoid it)
It does not share anything, just query the DHT and request pieces, do
not register in the DHT, do not advertise itself, do not say what is
has, do not answer to queries, and it's working very well, please just
try it.

, but it just doesn't seed after it finishes. Is that right?
It does not seed either unless you explicitely decide to do it.

   If so I wouldn't call that freeriding: this is exactly what the
protocol was designed for.  It's just not going beyond the minimum.
Accordingly, I'd suggest calling it "minimal sharing".
Apparently the protocol can not avoid this, for now that's not really my
focus but I would have some ideas how to make this total freeriding more
difficult.
Possibly related concept - '10% of the content' sharing.

Or "fair use percentage" sharing.

Some jurisdictions have a "fair use" clause, so share that %.
Only. (According to your jurisdiction.)

Could be useful in any take-down or other legal type process.

Only advertise that you are seeding that 10% block.

Of course the clients coordinate to share different blocks.

And you need a minimum number of seeders. If less clients,
then seed different portions at different times.

Don't know how useful this might be.

Zenaan
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