On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 11:02 PM, Jason W. May wrote:

> Terrence Brannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>>
>> I happened to be browsing perl.apache.org and came across this
>> new system which seems to have p5ee covered not in theory but in
>> a working practical system. Here is the README:
>>
>> (snip)
>
> I'll need to look at this more carefully, but judging from some
> of the "show page source" links, it looks like application logic
> and presentation is all mixed together in the same source file.
>

really? it looked like display logic to me... I downloaded the 
distribution.

> While I agree that MVC is in general a Good Thing, I think that
> strict separation of concerns is a Better Thing.
>

that is what MVC would do...

the thing that I found unsavoury about this framework was that 
all the classes were
Bivio::* instead of something general and CPAN-able.

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