> To make this at least slightly relevant to this list, I see Perl's value
> in these situations as being ease of use, speed of development, quality > of support, and source code availability. The price is just gravy. Pursuing the 'relevance' a bit... I agree with the speed of development. Perl by far surpasses any language I've worked with in that area and is the biggest reason why a P5EE concept has merit. While I agree that the quality of support is unsurpassed, this is still a huge barrier in the Corps. eye. It see's any piece of code as IP, and that posting some code in order to receive some assistance as a potential threat. In fact one of the reasons why Java gets the nod over Perl is that the class files and the other architectural abstractions of J2EE are seen as IP protections. I have pointed out that through the use of apache Mod-perl modules a similar level of abstraction can be created. This approach seems to be more attractive, but there are still so many other hurdles that it alone cannot get Perl to Enterprise status as an Architecture. Perrin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/06/2002 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A reminder of why we're here... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > With iplanet shipping free with Solaris 9, and the availability of JBoss, > the cost of the app Server software is removed from the equation of > 'costs'. If you're using the free stuff, you're in the minority. Most companies use WebLogic or WebSphere, with a few using iPlanet and even fewer using Oracle. The company I work for now uses ATG Dynamo, which is priced so high it makes the hardware sound cheap. This is not a complaint about J2EE, but rather about managers who insist on spending millions of dollars rather than using free or low-cost alternatives like JBoss, Resin, and Orion. This attitude seems to be the norm among most big companies using Java. To make this at least slightly relevant to this list, I see Perl's value in these situations as being ease of use, speed of development, quality of support, and source code availability. The price is just gravy. - Perrin