I'm not following here.  What happened that led you to conclude that there 
were no advantages using SF?  What version did you examine?
Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


> Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
> regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system. I'd
> like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for something
> that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and 
> in
> automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but 
> aside
> from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages 
> for
> someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do use
> GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
> that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.
>
> Larry
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>
>
>>    Hi Larry
>> It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't
>> use
>> it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If
>> you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of
>> which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate 
>> the
>> process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted help
>> may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
>> instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons. 
>> After
>> a
>> few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
>> you
>> can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
>> enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
>> too.
>> It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
>> cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6 
>> itself.
>> Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
>> Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
>> select
>> areas in DC6. Have you?
>> While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
>> difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of
>> dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
>> themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter?
>> Regards.
>> Gordon
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>
>>
>>> Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it. 
>>> In
>>> many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could open
>>> an
>>> audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
>>> anything
>>> with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of 
>>> the
>>> box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 itself.
>>> And
>>> you're right, it's a fine audio editor.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> If it's dC6 it's found on
>>>> www.tracertek.com
>>>> This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
>>>> reduction
>>>> but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
>>>> Gordon
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this 
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> feel
>>>>>> that it isn't accessible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dc6?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before
>>>>>>>>transferring
>>>>>>>> them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>> to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
>>>>>>>> Window-eyes
>>>>>>>> without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to
>>>>>>>> perform
>>>>>>>> such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
>>>>>>>> andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any
>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Jerry Richer" <        Com>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't want to use anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
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