Ok, as an experiment, I took one of the copies I'd made with Nero and from
it made another.  It played fine.  I'm still trying to understand what is
the big deal except for some number crunching?  Inquiring minds want to
know. 

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I don't agree with that statement at all, if you want an exact audio copy
from which you can make another exact audio copy then this is extremely
important and very logical.

On 07/10/2007, at 12:33 PM, albert griffith wrote:

> If each copy plays without incident it seems these comparisons only 
> serve the purposes of giving tech people something to measure.  Are 
> there any real world consequences for not offsetting my drives?  I'm 
> only curious.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 7:40 PM
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> Well you can prove that there's a problem quite easily. Take say a 
> copy of a CD done with nero and one done by EAC which has been 
> configured, rip a solid wave file from both, compare the 2 and see 
> what you get, that's how serious a shortcoming we're talking about 
> here. The documentation which comes with EAC describes these problems 
> in detail.
>
> On 07/10/2007, at 10:09 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>
>> When you state the inability to offset drives is, "a serious 
>> shortcoming,"
>> just how serious is this problem?  In my evaluation of the program, 
>> I've converted and copied three sets of tracks to disk without 
>> benefit of this feature with Nero and the disk play in a standard CD 
>> player just fine.
>> what's supposed to happen if my drive isn't offset?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:30 PM
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>> Subject: Re: What program is the best for birning music CDS?
>>
>> Nero is excellent for burning data but as I've stated in a previous 
>> message, its quite hopeless for copying audio CD'S. Firstly, it has 
>> problems with reading audio CD'S, its not as accurate as Exact Audio 
>> Copy is and then you cannot set the offsets of your drive with Nero, 
>> this is a serious shortcoming.
>>
>> On 07/10/2007, at 5:54 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>>
>>> To say that Nero isn't good at anything because it does everything 
>>> sounds cute but resides far short of the truth.  It sounds s if 
>>> you've already given the question some though, so, what do you think 
>>> might be a good burner?  Let's start there.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> audio.org] On Behalf Of alex
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>>>
>>> But because Nero does more than one thing from what i heard it is 
>>> not good at any of it. I want a stand-alone one.
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>>>
>>>> Nero 6.0 (most accessible), Nero 7.0 (95.9% accessible), and trial 
>>>> of Nero 8.0 beta ( I would say about 85% accessible). The 
>>>> percentage of accessibleness is based off of JAWS, not Window 
>>>> Eyes..
>>>>
>>>> download Nero at:
>>>> www.nero.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tristan Bussiere
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>>>> http://www.acegamesonline.net
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>>>>
>>>>>    Witch program birns the highest quality audio CDS?
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