Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you 
need to use EAC.  If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to 
those extremes.  You should always use error correction of course which will 
slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a 
good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition.

Kevin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've 
changed things


Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where
"perfect rips" and "perfect copies" are a "must have" then Media Player and
others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are
sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a
pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are
the only things I've tested which do "perfect rips" and "perfect copies" of
audio CD'S.
Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are
functioning <smile>, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that
(unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so
you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC
(as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor
which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that
almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if
set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say
7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the
comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector
and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio
Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of
those round these days I don't think.
Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their "dying day" well I admire
your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth
now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that
means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using
Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output
plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3
decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice.


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of albert griffith
Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things

Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his
tracks to be ripped neatly.  It's a good program but I like the media player
as well if I'm ripping to a format they support.  Example: I've ripped 500
disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze.  I just push in
the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is
complete.  EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look
better on paper, I can't hear a difference.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things

I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior? I've
been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since version 4 or 5, I think. Can't
imagine an easier interface, or better results.

Blessed Be,

Dana
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them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation  dictionary that
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things


Yeah, well the software is only going to be used for conversion here
as I find that EAC does a far better job at ripping, honestly that
software is the best ripper on the earth I reckon.

On 22/11/2007, at 2:29 PM, Dana S. Leslie wrote:

> Dane,
>
> Glad to help. And, thank you for alerting me to the change. As I
> said in my
> last message, I mostly only ever use the program to rip CDs to my hard
> drive. But, occasionally, I will convert some files. If you hadn't
> alerted
> me, I probably would have been happily ripping away with version
> 11, and
> been very surprised and frustrated when I did, eventually, want to
> do a
> conversion.
>
> Blessed Be,
>
> Dana
> that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your
> customized
> pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.
>
> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:54 PM
> Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>
>
> Thanks Danna, just tried it and its working a treat.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 5:33 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>
> Dane,
>
> Here's what I found:
> In the converter, F8 no longer works to start the conversion. You
> have to
> use the JAWS cursor to find the Convert Files button, and click it
> with the
> JAWS cursor. The button is located a few lines up from the bottom
> of the
> screen, toward the right side of the screen.
>
> In the burner, F8 still works to begin the burn. But, I found, it
> seems to
> take longer than it used to get the files you've selected loaded
> into the To
>
> Be Burned list box. Once they are, though, F8 starts the burn, and
> everything works just as it used to.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Blessed Be,
>
> Dana
> that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your
> customized
> pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.
>
> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:01 AM
> Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>
>
>> Thanks for that, see how you get on. A friend alerted me to this
>> 9for want
>> of a better word) problem, I was up until a few days ago using
>> Easy CD DA
>> Extractor Version 10.5 and things worked a bit differently, you
>> used the
>> context key on a folder, selected convert with Easy CD DA
>> Extractor, the
>> software would launch, you made your settings (I.E. output format,
>> folders,
>> file name etc) and pressed f8, the conversion process started and
>> now this
>> thing just won't work for me for some reason, won't work for my
>> friend
>> either so if anyone gets it working let us know.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
>> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:56 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>
>> I haven't had an occasion to try burning or converting, since I
>> upgraded
>> to
>> 11. I'll try playing with those features, over the holiday
>> weekend, and
>> report back.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:21 AM
>> Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>
>>
>>> They're enabled, the converter actually launches but the convet
>>> button
>>> and
>>> option in the actions menu is disabled for some reason.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
>>> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:16 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>>
>>> Go to Options, General Settings, Do you have the Enable Windows
>>> Explorer
>>> Context Menus check box checked?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ok, in the older version of Easy CD DA Extractor I was using
>>>> before I
>>>> upgraded, I was able to say select a folder containing sub-folders
>>>> containing say wave files, press the Windows Context key from
>>>> Windows
>>>> Explorer, click on the "Convert With Easy CD DA Extractor", the
>>>> software
>>>> would then launch where I could then change the settings for my
>>>> required
>>>> job
>>>> and press f8 to start the conversion. Now this behavior has
>>>> changed, the
>>>> option is still there but the "convert" button is disabled on
>>>> the screen
>>>> and
>>>> in the Easy CD DA Actions menu, anyone have any idea of what I'm
>>>> doing
>>>> wrong?
>>>>
>>>>
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