I don't think Harman Karden is in business any more. they did make good 
components!

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From: "Blackwell, Clifford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:51 PM
Subject: RE: av reciver or stereo reciever


>I have an Onkyo stereo receiver that I like a lot.  It's a little
> difficult to set up without sighted help, but once set up it works well
> with the remote or manually.  It has 100 watts per channel, inputs for
> xm radio as well as a built in am/fm radio and has cd, aux, phono and a
> couple of tape inputs and outputs.
>
> I also have a Sony 7.1 surround av reciever.  I've never been able to
> really get it set up properly.  It sounds great when I get things going,
> but the surround sound features have me perplexed.
>
> If you go stereo, I'd look at Onkyo, Denon and Harman Karden.
>
> Good luck.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunshine
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:56 AM
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> Subject: Re: av reciver or stereo reciever
>
> yes, thanks very much
> Got one more question
> have you had any experience with the Onkyo  systems?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: av reciver or stereo reciever
>
>
>> Ok this is my opinion for what its worth, there's a really nice
>> bargain-priced amp out there with surround-soung, yep its only 5.1 but
>> if you're looking for a genuine bargain and you're really interested
>> in 2 channel sound rather than really interested in rearranging your
>> room for surround-sound and you just want a good stereo amp (despite
>> the extra 5.1 affect) then take a look at the unit found at
>> http://www.oo.com.au/Multi_Channel_Power_Amplifier_P7417.cfm
>> Of course the other way you can go is to do some digging and find that
>> second-hand treasure for a song, too many to mention here <smile>. but
>> one model I like which seems to come up every so often around the
>> traps is the Technics SUZ11, its a very small slim line AMp and
>> delivers 50 watts RMS per channel, its small enough to tuck under your
>> arm so if you're in the habit of rearanging things or needing an amp
>> small enough to take to a small hall with a bit of punch then this is
>> the amp. Not much to rave about in the features steaks, just 3 inputs
>> (fono, AUX and Tuner) and 2 stereo speaker outputs (A and B) but in
>> the Hi-Fi game? Well sound quality comes well before features <smile>.
>>
>> I personally don't believe in buying receivers, I prefer to match a
>> good tuner with my amp but each to their own, in the tuner steaks
>> there are 2 kinds, one which gives you a narrow band with good
>> sensitivity and the other giving you a nice wide band, great audio
>> quality but not so sensitive.  I have 2 different Denon tuners here
>> each fitting the characteristics I've just outlined but e warned, even
>> on the second-hand market these little beauties fetch a few hundred
>> dollars and their FM quality is truly outstanding.
>>
>> As a final thought, if I were going to go for a receiver and I wasn't
>> at all too concerned about surround-sound? Well give the Denon AVR2000
>> a look over, fetches about $300.00 on the second-hand market but I've
>> seen them go higher in price, a truly outstanding 5.1 receiver with 80
>> watts RMS per channel (that includes the 2 rear channels) and an
>> excellent wide band tuner.
>>
>> Did I answer any of your questions? Probably not, I just rambled
>> <smile>.
>>
>>
>> On 02/09/2008, at 8:38 AM, Sunshine wrote:
>>
>>> what are some of the best  in the above subject line?
>>> brand names and prices and where i can find them
>>> thanks
>>>
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