Hi Jonathan. We both have the same phone. I have defined a Key to bring up 
the music menu. When you put music or podcasts on the phone you can also 
just Take the memmorycard out of the phone and insert it in to your card 
adaptor and then pop it in to your laptop. I prefer this method of putting 
music on to a phone. The thing with Apple you have to go to the trouble of 
converting music in to the player's code and then if the player is 
accessible you can select and play music of your choice. Did you enjoy your 
trip to Sight Village in July?
----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible


> Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have 
> an
> N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback 
> devices
> are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a
> smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of saqib
> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
>
> Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to
> music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to
> meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude
> was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's
> good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but
> this wasn't the case before.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM
> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
>
>
>> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've
>> read,
>> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to
>> your
>> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using
>> your
>> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files
>> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to
>> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you
>> can
>> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real
>> text
>> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox 
>> gave
>> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m.
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>
>> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds
>> off
>> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off.
>>
>> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>
>> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use
>> text
>> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years,
>> where
>> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that
>> live
>> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs.
>>
>> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of
>> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able
>> to
>> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for
>> iTunes
>> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today
>> and
>> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others.
>> Apple have done a good job here.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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>> On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m.
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>
>> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but
>> I
>> haven't seen one, so I don't know.
>> Cheers
>> Alex
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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>> On Behalf Of Lauren
>> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>
>> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Lauren
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM
>> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible
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>>
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