Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment regarding the
Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the data, you'll see that
the penetration of Symbian devices is lower in the US than most other
developed markets. That market data is fairly readily available. There is
also plenty of survey data which indicates that the majority of US customers
feel that they only want their phone to make and receive calls, hence the
popularity of the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that
many of the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are
different from the rest of the world.

Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player does offer
extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I use designed
specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82 lock up.

Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia phones such
as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and include handy features
such as an FM transmitter.

There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious problem
for sure. There are external battery packs or even second batteries that can
mitigate this, but some phones simply perform for much longer.

The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and indeed just
different solutions, work for different people, and sometimes it's just a
matter of preference. 

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m.
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.

Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond.  Which company aare you 
working for now?

So, you WROTE:


Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the context of
what else you might like to do on the go. For example, if you use a cell
phone or might like to, then getting an accessible cell phone with a good
music player, such as those from Nokia, might be the best option. The Victor
Reader Stream will play NLS books, which in North America is certainly a
factor, however other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is another
device to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America, where
the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the Nokia N82 I
have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB Reader mobile, but I
can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible and
flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts right from the
phone. So there is no need to carry another device around with me that
duplicates those functions.

If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many portable
music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth considering and that
will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an iPod
Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will play music and
Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more, the Zenstone seems quite
popular. And let's not forget the iPod Nano, which talks now.

Jonathan

***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to 
Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established.

Freaking lol man!

I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right?

Trust me folks,
Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other then 
talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader, are not designed

with the blind user in mind.  However, The Victor reader Stream is a fully 
featured packed unit that is blind friendly! !
 And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen reader 
combination.  Investigate battery life for example.  Or look at book marking

and navigation features!  Once you do, you will know that the smart phone 
isn't there yet!

Like mr. Mossen, I have em all!  Every last one of them!  some of which you 
likely don't even know of!  And what player do I pull out of the night stand

at bed time?>

No, it's not my smart phone!  No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni!  No, it's not 
my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone!  An no, it's not my beloved Rockbox!
Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all the 
target players and, was involved in the beginning.  Some may no me as 
rocker!  The inspiration behind the Voice UI!

Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital content 
is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream!

It really does boast a wide array of features.  Everthing you want from a 
book reader and a music player!
AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it.
It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more pounding for 
sure!

More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like the other 
gagets.

So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you must be a 
little late in jumping on the Stream culture!
LOL!

Rock on...rocker!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kenbu
Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m.
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.

Hi Jonathan;  A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a thumbdrive
and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought that
would enable me to listen independent of my pc?  Ken B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.


> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
> those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
> connected to iTunes to have the speech.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Bobcat
> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
> Listened to the podcast.  Do I understand that it only talks when
connected
> to Itunes?
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >> From: Shane Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
> >> Hello, all.  I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the
> >> content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this
> >> unique little device.  I take you on a tour and a demo of the new,
> >> and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation.  I also
> >> demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod.
> >> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your
> >> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast
> >> very soon concerning this very subject.  If you want the direct
> >> file, it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and
> >> the link for the podcast subscription is
> >> http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
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