Hi all, sorry just a correction to my previous post, of course 16GB SDHC
cards have been shipping for quite some time now. What I meant to say was
16GB MicroSDHC, which will be shipping by the end of the month according to
some blogs I have been reading.

Jonathan 

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Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2008 9:23 a.m.
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Subject: RE: MP3 Playback Options

Hi Gary, there are two approaches I've tried. One is to use the Nokia Audio
book player from their beta labs web site. This is a  little fiddly. It can
convert MP3 audio books into the same codec NLS is using for its audio
books, which is optimised for speech at low bit rates. The up side is that
these files take up little disk space, although with 16GB SDHC cards about
to start shipping, this is becoming less and less an issue. The maximum
capacity of SDHC is eventually going to be 32GB. The down side is that it
takes time to do the conversion.

In more recent times, I've been using a program called Scheherazade. This is
an audio book program that also includes voice tagging, in case you want to
make audio notes when you listen. It remembers your place in each audio book
in case you have several books on the go at once. If I've scanned print
books with Openbook for example, I can save them to MP3 and read them with
Scheherazade, and it will remember my place if I go and do something else.
It can be downloaded from
http://www.platysoft.com.au/Downloads.aspx

The newer Nokia N-series phones also support Microsoft Protected Windows
media Audio. That means if you have access to Overdrive in your area, you
can listen to protected Overdrive content, or for that matter, the new RFB&D
downloaded audio books. I haven't tried this, but Scheherazade claims to
support all formats the phone supports. So this might be a way for people to
have a playback option on Symbian that remembers your place in this kind of
content.

Hope this helps.

Jonathan

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Jonathan,

What MP3 player are you using for audio books?

Gary King
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> Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment regarding 
> the
> Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the data, you'll see that
> the penetration of Symbian devices is lower in the US than most other
> developed markets. That market data is fairly readily available. There is
> also plenty of survey data which indicates that the majority of US 
> customers
> feel that they only want their phone to make and receive calls, hence the
> popularity of the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that
> many of the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are
> different from the rest of the world.
>
> Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player does 
> offer
> extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I use designed
> specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82 lock up.
>
> Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia phones 
> such
> as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and include handy features
> such as an FM transmitter.
>
> There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious problem
> for sure. There are external battery packs or even second batteries that 
> can
> mitigate this, but some phones simply perform for much longer.
>
> The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and indeed 
> just
> different solutions, work for different people, and sometimes it's just a
> matter of preference.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
> Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond.  Which company aare you
> working for now?
>
> So, you WROTE:
>
>
> Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the context 
> of
> what else you might like to do on the go. For example, if you use a cell
> phone or might like to, then getting an accessible cell phone with a good
> music player, such as those from Nokia, might be the best option. The 
> Victor
> Reader Stream will play NLS books, which in North America is certainly a
> factor, however other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is 
> another
> device to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America, 
> where
> the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the Nokia N82 I
> have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB Reader mobile, but

> I
> can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible and
> flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts right from 
> the
> phone. So there is no need to carry another device around with me that
> duplicates those functions.
>
> If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many portable
> music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth considering and that
> will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an iPod
> Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will play music and
> Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more, the Zenstone seems 
> quite
> popular. And let's not forget the iPod Nano, which talks now.
>
> Jonathan
>
> ***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to
> Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established.
>
> Freaking lol man!
>
> I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right?
>
> Trust me folks,
> Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other then
> talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader, are not 
> designed
>
> with the blind user in mind.  However, The Victor reader Stream is a fully
> featured packed unit that is blind friendly! !
> And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen reader
> combination.  Investigate battery life for example.  Or look at book 
> marking
>
> and navigation features!  Once you do, you will know that the smart phone
> isn't there yet!
>
> Like mr. Mossen, I have em all!  Every last one of them!  some of which 
> you
> likely don't even know of!  And what player do I pull out of the night 
> stand
>
> at bed time?>
>
> No, it's not my smart phone!  No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni!  No, it's not
> my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone!  An no, it's not my beloved Rockbox!
> Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all the
> target players and, was involved in the beginning.  Some may no me as
> rocker!  The inspiration behind the Voice UI!
>
> Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital content
> is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream!
>
> It really does boast a wide array of features.  Everthing you want from a
> book reader and a music player!
> AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it.
> It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more pounding 
> for
> sure!
>
> More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like the 
> other
> gagets.
>
> So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you must be a
> little late in jumping on the Stream culture!
> LOL!
>
> Rock on...rocker!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Kenbu
> Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
> Hi Jonathan;  A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a thumbdrive
> and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought that
> would enable me to listen independent of my pc?  Ken B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>
>> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
>> those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
>> connected to iTunes to have the speech.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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>> On Behalf Of Bobcat
>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
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>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>> Listened to the podcast.  Do I understand that it only talks when
> connected
>> to Itunes?
>>
>> Bob
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>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> >> From: Shane Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
>> >> Hello, all.  I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the
>> >> content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this
>> >> unique little device.  I take you on a tour and a demo of the new,
>> >> and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation.  I also
>> >> demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod.
>> >> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your
>> >> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast
>> >> very soon concerning this very subject.  If you want the direct
>> >> file, it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and
>> >> the link for the podcast subscription is
>> >> http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
>>
>>
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