Victoria, I was refering to the BBC's Iplayer TV catch up streams which I
doubt are available outside of the UK.

You do need a pretty fast connection to sustain TV streaming, particularly at
the high definition rate which approaches broadcast quality here in the uK.

Ray

Victoria Vaughan wrote:
Ray, Please, What do you mean by "Stream TV"? Is there a way to find TV
programming on internet?  Are you, by chance, using "Fan Cast"?  When I
tried that, its constant pausing for "Rebuffering", drove me crazy!

Many thanks! Vicky
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray" <rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: Problems Playing WMV and MOV Files


> Caroline, I omitted to say there is something called Quicktime Alternative
> which is supposed to make life easier for screen reader users, though it
> wasn't developped specially for us.  I think it allows you to play
> material
> outside of the browser rather than the ebbeding imposed by web designers
> when
> using Quictime.  there is a Wiki on Quicktime Alternative should you want
> to
> follow that up, but you seem to be getting along with QT.
>
> Must admit it's ages since I sued the IPlayer downloader.  I just stream
> TV
> programmes now.  Often wondered if it's possible to record the video as
> well
> as the sound while watching, but not looked into that.
>
> Do let us know if you have success getting downloaded programmes to play
> in WMP.
> Ray
>
> Caroline Ford wrote:
> Ray,
>
> I have at last managed to find a solution of sorts.  A download of
> QuickTime
> for Windows has at least allowed me to play my MOV file.  I am now
> re-downloading the WMV files in MOV format to be able to play those too as
> the WMV files still stubbornly refuse to play.  I've read through the help
> on the iPlayer site but it didn't address the problem I have.  I think no
> DRM licences are being downloaded although WMP is set to allow them.  It
> is
> all rather frustrating, but at least I have found a workaround.  As you
> say,
> QuickTime is not the most accessible player ever invented, but I have
> found
> enough keystrokes to make it usable.
>
> I don't think my situation was helped by me still having the old iPlayer
> Download Manager instead of the newer version.  That just shows how long
> it
> is since I last tried to download anything from the iPlayer.  Strangely
> enough it didn't even prompt me that I still had an obsolete version of
> the
> downloader on my PC and I only found out about it from the article you
> posted and then the iPlayer help.
>
> Definitely a work in progress.
>
> Caroline.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Ray
> Sent: 01 November 2009 22:28
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Problems Playing WMV and MOV Files
>
> Caroline, I'm not surprised the Beeb isn't making it easy to play
> downloaded
> files in other media players because, after all, the licence you're
> granted
> to
> play these does in the normal way of playing them expire in 28 days or
> something like that.
>
> I wonder though if there is an extra DRM module or plug-in for Windows
> Media
> Player that would allow you to play these programs in WMP.  The BBC itself
> might be prepared to answer this question.
>
> As an aside I'm rather surprised the Beeb hasn't closed the seeming loop
> hole
> where people are downloading radio programmes as that's not what is
> supposed
> to happen.  there agreement with copyright holders is for 7 days streaming
> availability after a programme goes out.  Still, a bit off the subject I
> know.
>
> Hope you get an answer to this Caroline and I see you've posted this issue
> on
> Access-UK so who knows, maybe an answer will yet surface there.
>
> Ray
>
> Caroline Ford wrote:
> Ray,
>
> Thank you for the advice.  I have read the article but it doesn't seem to
> offer much help as to what the problem is.  The files I am trying to play
> are downloaded programmes from the BBC iPlayer so they will have DRM
> protection.  I have been able to stream a short sample of these programmes
> successfully just to make sure everything was working properly, and then
> proceeded to download the two versions on offer, one for portable players
> and one for Windows Media Player.  Neither of these will play on my PC.  I
> don't know whether there's something I need to do to allow Windows Media
> Player to play DRM files, but I have checked for updates and am already
> running version 11 with no updates on offer.  I'm surprised the BBC have
> made it so fiendishly difficult to play these files.  Perhaps they prefer
> people just to stream their programmes instead.
>
> Caroline.
>
>
>
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