Don, There are at least two things that can happen with noise reduction. First, some noise reduction algorithms do cause a loss of high frequencies. The noise reduction in Sound Forge actually has an option to add highs back, but one could do the same with an equalizer. However, hiss, itself, can make a recording sound brighter. I have heard examples where the sound spectrum with and without hiss was made the same, and the one with hiss sounded brighter. As you say, sound is very subjective in some ways, but the ear can be fooled as well. More than once I have thought I had found a tremendous set of parameters to get rid of noise on a recording, only to find there were artifacts of noise reduction that were very apparent to me when I listened the next day. It is a challenge.
Best regards, Steve Jacobson to On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:43:25 -0800, Donald L. Roberts wrote: >I do not claim to be knowledgeable regarding noise reduction. However, >most of the time I have dealt with old recordings which have been >subjected to noise reduction software, there are almost no highs >whatsoever. I am thinking of a lot of big band and vocal recordings >made on 78s during the 30s and 40s, and yes I know that the modulating >frequencies were seldom more than 5000 cycles. But I have heard a >number of those recordings on the original vinyl and later heard those >same recordings after going through noise reduction procedures, and the >resulting sound is so bland that I would much prefer the originals, >complete with hiss and a few pops. >As stated earlier, I haven't played with this stuff much, so I am not >bashing. I am just suggesting that good sound is an extremely >subjective thing. >Don Roberts >On 2/9/2013 12:25 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: >> Hi, >> the noise remover in Audacity is far better. >> >> Brian >> >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Curtis Delzer >> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 5:15 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition >> >> >> "auto noise capture" in sound forge is great, and >> then the trick is to get it to lower the defaults >> to more than one of the saved configurations to more than 12.5 DB. >> You can totally get rid of "cassette" noise, for >> example, at about -40 DB or so, any more than >> that and it starts to make the typical NR swishy >> sounds which are not desirable. >> >> >> >> At 08:19 AM 12/04/12, you wrote: >>> In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction. >>> However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction >>> is just as good but one needs to play with it some. For example, the >>> Sound Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes, >>> and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content. I didn't >>> feel I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to >>> get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think >>> you can do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction >>> plug-in if you experiment with settings.. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote: >>> >>> >Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on >>> the >>> >PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe >>> >Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, >>> since March of 22011 it has been >>> >too difficult for nme to use it since it is >>> not very speech friendly. I kept >>> >waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to >>> >download Reaper today and give it a try. >>> >>> >-----Original Message----- >>> >From: Hamit Campos >>> >Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM >>> >To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> >Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition >>> >I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very >>> >much. >>> >Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too >>> no? >>> >>> >-----Original Message----- >>> >From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>> Samuel >>> >Wilkins >>> >Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM >>> >To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> >Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition >>> >>> >The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its >>> >multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like >>> to >edit, >>> >and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes. >>> >>> >-----Original Message----- >>> >From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek >>> >Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32 >>> >To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> >Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition >>> >>> >Hi Sam, >>> >>> >My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the >>> >past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got >>> >totally >>> >worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed >>> >their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I >>> >wasn't >>> >confortable with that as many objects were placed without any >>> shortcut >keys >>> >on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them >>> using >the >>> >virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the >>> >standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some >>> >particular >>> >things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were >>> >incredible >>> >having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the >>> >latest >>> >versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I >>> say >the >>> >most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:). >>> >>> >For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the >>> >universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to >>> all >>> >screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> >Tapin-radio coordinator >>> >URL: http://www.tapinradio.com/ >>> >Facebook: http://facebook.com/tapinradio >>> >Twitter: http://twitter.com/tapin_radio >>> >Skype: tapinradio >>> > ----- Puvodní zpráva ----- >>> > Od: Samuel Wilkins >>> > Komu: PC Audio Discussion List >>> > Odesláno: 2. prosince 2012 16:21 >>> > Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition >>> >>> >>> > Hello everyone, I am considering migrating to Adobe Audition. >>> However, > I >>> > was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen > >>> reader. >>> >I >>> > am using Window-Eyes as my reader. 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