Shame! DAB+ is going gang busters here, over 2 million people listen to the format per week and it doesn't sound too bad.
I guess the main difference between your system and ours is the way the systems are being marketed, with DAB+ in Australia the Consumer has literally hundreds of different DAB+ sets to choose from, everything from $30.00 portables to DAB+ radios costing in the thousands of dollars. So given that more than 2 million people listen to DAB+ per week and given that the format is only available in Inner Metropolitan areas - then that's 1 hell of a lot of people who are bothering. On 26/07/2013, at 5:19 AM, Gary Schindler <garys5...@comcast.net> wrote: > they don't make it any more. it used to retail for $159.00 or so. > > I came to the conclusion that HD radio isn't making the big splash that the > broadcasters had hoped that it would in the states. > > When I went to buy the HD-100 tuner it was sold out and discontinued. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "hank smith, and seeing-eye dog iona" > <hanksm...@hanksmith.net> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:19 AM > Subject: Re: A Favour > > >> all I am finding is a tuner for cars are u sure the sony hd is the correct >> model number? >> also what was the model of the coby one as well? >> Hank >> On 7/24/2013 9:10 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Hmm, and I thought our DAB+ system was bad at times <smile>. >>> >>> I'm very sorry to hear that you seem to have a lack of choice when it comes >>> to tuners etc. >>> >>> I'm outside the DAB+ receiving area of Melbourne in theory and I can still >>> receive DAB+ on all my sets here though the Yamaha Tuner I wrote about last >>> week handles DAB+ signals better than any other DAB+ capable device I have >>> here and I have around a dozen of those. >>> >>> Someone told me that Sony made a very "Hot" HD tuner and perhaps this is >>> the one you refer to in your message below? >>> >>> If they're still available then they're worth grabbing, not so much for the >>> HD content but they're very good for DXing work. >>> >>> >>> On 25/07/2013, at 11:55 AM, Gary Schindler <garys5...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Steve, usually the CBS and Clear channel stations have good CD quality >>>> audio on HD 1 and 2 here in Pittsburgh. On KDKA HD 3 you get the CBs Radio >>>> Sports programming which doesn't sound any better than FM programming. I >>>> would guess that WCCO probably has the same setup. >>>> >>>> There is another local broadcast company called Steel City Media that >>>> broadcast on all 4 hd channels in Stereo. all of them sound like hd >>>> quality but the fourth channel is much weaker on both stations, so if we >>>> have windy days you have a lot of drop outs. >>>> >>>> >>>> I concur with you, A M HD isn't good at all. during the day KDKA A M was >>>> decent, but at night, the signal wasn't strong enough to hold it locked >>>> in. WTAE was weak enough that it is impossible to listen to it in the day >>>> time too. >>>> >>>> Since the a m uses the ajacent channels you can forget night time DX >>>> listening. >>>> >>>> I think you have a Coby from what you are describing, and I was tempted to >>>> buy one but never did. Try looking for a Sony HD-100 tuner. that should >>>> have a 75 ohm F connector that you want. I guess you will have to find it >>>> on EBay. >>>> >>>> I have a couple of Radiosoppy tabletop hd radios that you take the whip >>>> antenna off the back of the radio and there is the F connector for a >>>> rooftop antenna. they don't make the sets any more, so EBay might be the >>>> place to find them too. >>>> >>>> any more you have to get hd tuners incorporated in to stereo receivers >>>> like Pioneer, Demon or something like that. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jacobson" >>>> <steve.jacob...@visi.com> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:00 PM >>>> Subject: Re: A Favour >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dane, >>>>> >>>>> I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could >>>>> provide an example. However, I am not sure what such a >>>>> sample will tell you. HD Radio in the United States is so variable in >>>>> its quality. For example, on FM, the HD programming can be >>>>> divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to >>>>> each program can vary. One of the Christian stations here >>>>> in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels. One of our >>>>> public stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and >>>>> they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a >>>>> lower bit-rate MP3. Some radio stations seem pretty good >>>>> about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty >>>>> much the same signal to the HD program as to the main analog >>>>> program so the difference is just less noise. . From what I have read, >>>>> DAB is clearly a superior system, but it uses an >>>>> additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk. >>>>> >>>>> In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good. A good HD signal on >>>>> AM sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM >>>>> signal, but the AM signal has to be so good that the analog signal would >>>>> sound pretty good if it was not restricted in bandwidth >>>>> because of the HD signal. I bought a Carver tuner that was capable of >>>>> receiving AM Stereo back in the 1980's here, and the sound >>>>> quality was pretty good. HD AM radio sounds better, but it takes so >>>>> little to disrupt it that it doesn't seem all that practicle. >>>>> >>>>> Another frustration of mine is that I can't find a good HD Tuner any >>>>> more. I bought one from Amazon that listed for $99 but is >>>>> now sold for $35 and it isn't bad, but it has a permanently connected >>>>> wire antenna for FM with no obvious place to connect a >>>>> ground. My system is in a basement and I have an outdoor FM antenna, but >>>>> there is no simple way to connect a 75-ohm coxial cable >>>>> to it. The HD table radios I have all have coxial cable connections so I >>>>> never thought to check if the tuner had a 75-ohm >>>>> connection. The wire antenna would be adequate above ground level. I >>>>> have some electronic knowledge so I've experimented with >>>>> making a connection to the 75-ohm cable available in the basement, but >>>>> the connection is not very efficient. I saw a Sony tuner >>>>> available used but it was at three or four times the original price, and >>>>> there were some bad reviews associated with the seller. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Finally, here in the Twin Cities in Minnesota, apparently HD is not a >>>>> part of many of our stations' backup transmitters. A number >>>>> of our bigger stations are on a couple of tall transmission towers, and >>>>> when they do maintenance on the towers, the analog signal >>>>> is transmitted from a backup site but no HD. This has been a somewhat >>>>> common occurrence this summer for some reason. >>>>> >>>>> Even with all this, I like HD because the sound can be good, and it opens >>>>> up the potential for additional programming on our FM >>>>> bands. >>>>> >>>>> After reading all of this, let me know what sort of samples you might >>>>> like or if you would simply like a good and a poor example. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Steve Jacobson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:48:52 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> Does anyone out there have a HD Tuner? I'm looking for some samples of >>>>>> HD radio so if someone could provide then I'd be most >>>>> appreciative. >>>>> >>>>>> I can return the favour perhaps by providing some samples of DAB+. >>>>> >>>>>> ********** >>>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>> >>> ********** >>> >>> Dane Trethowan >>> Skype: grtdane12 >>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>> Fax +61397437954 >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ********** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
