I must confess that I've never to this day heard surround-sound; in some
ways, I'd like to hear what it sounds like; aw but then I'd probably want it
and it's just not practical in this house!  It might be that someday I'll
investigate getting a sound bar for the TV in the living room; that should
help some as it's _got_ to sound better than the sound I get from the TV
now; not that it's absolutely terrible or anything like that; my major
complaint is that the sound tends to make the television vibrate; that's
annoying!
Tom Kaufman

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:43 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound

Even so, music for the most part is not recorded to take advantage of the
concert hall effect, even on our classical stations here its just recorded
in plain old fashioned stereo and I ought to know <smile>.


On 27 May 2014, at 12:38 pm, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Yes, of course, the audio source is on the stage, which is in front of
> you. But your living-room does not come close to approximating the
> dimensions of even a small concert hall. So that's where the dsp and
> magic of multiple speakers comes in. I don't pretend to know how they
> do it. But I know that even my old ADS analog time delay system did
> wonderous things for lps of classical music. It came a lot closer to
> the concert hall experience than just a two-channel set up in my
> living-room.
> 
> Mary
> 
> On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:30:11 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> 
>> What you say about the concert hall is right however, in a concert hall
the audio is usually in the front of you, that's where the stage is as far
as I'm away so that's where the audio usually comes from.
>> 
>> The same applies when listening in stereo, the speakers are usually in
front of you for good stereo listening.
>> 
>> The old analogue Surround-Sound? I still have my original Denon AVR2000
which supported all the Quad modes for front left-right and rear left-right
but for the most part the recordings made were not true surround-sound or
quad back then, some sort of DSP was needed to decode the source to generate
the effect.
>> 
>> We've progressed to the point where each channel - in true Surround-Sound
or Quad mode - has its own path to each speaker which was unheard of say 20
years ago.
>> 
>> If you look at the more expensive Surround-Sound receivers you may even
see direct analogue connections for each channel, the cheaper receivers use
the HDMI connection to decode each channel digitally.
>> 
>> I have a whole heap of CD'S - SACD, Quad and Video Audio - which make
full use of the direct channel paths, the Quad CD'S I did myself, I mastered
them from Quad Carts - the old 8 track cartridges, versions of them came out
that used a track for each channel in the quad recording -.
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 May 2014, at 12:21 pm, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't had the ability to listen in surround sound for a long time.
>>> Indeed, most of my experience was with an analog system years ago, made
>>> by ADS. And it was awesome. I also had the Carver sonic holography
>>> unit, which was good, but not as good as the ads, which actually
>>> required two speakers in the rear. The thing is, if you like classical
>>> music, full orchestra etc, there is no way you get anything approaching
>>> a concert hall experience with two stereo speakers, unless there is
>>> some magic happening in the background, ala the Carver holography. I
>>> have been impressed with Polk Audio in the past and also with the Magna
>>> planar speakers, which I really wanted in the worst way. Talk about
>>> 3-dimensional sound! But the listening environment demanded by that set
>>> up is not one that your average guy or gal can manage. That's why I'
>>> m intrigued by sound bars and various digital signal processing
>>> techniques. I want to simulate the concert hall experience in my
>>> living-room. And 2 speakers will never do that.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **********
>> 
>> Dane Trethowan
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 


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