I should also add that my Surround-Sound Amp has a DSP in it already thus 
giving it the flexibility needed to deal with a wide variety of situations and 
room environments.

> On 5 Oct 2015, at 8:47 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> I’m surprised to read that Bose don’t have a 7.1 system but - if what I read 
> a few days ago is true - then I honestly don’t care.
> 
> I read that Bose speakers contain a DSP - Digital Sound Processor -, that’s 
> fine as far as it goes and yep, makes the Bose speaker sound good but if the 
> DSP dies or becomes faulty? Well too bad about your system you can’t go and 
> buy another speaker from another company, you have to buy a Bose replacement.
> 
> Now this won’t bother too many people I’m sure but it would annoy me, I’m 
> used to mixing and matching you could say, I might prefer to use some Polk 
> Audio speakers on my 7.1 surround-system and not Bose.
> 
> 
>> On 5 Oct 2015, at 8:24 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well it took for me to hear stuff to believe. Not just read. Also making 
>> note of how behind Bose is. Let's leave them alone as far as Dolby Atmos 
>> goes for now as they don't have a 7.1 system yet even. Yeah youu can kind of 
>> build your own, but the speakers that they recommend for the back ain't 
>> jewell cubes. So they won't match. Not sure if they do match more with the 
>> direct 1s, but I'd have to hear it for my self to be sure. I'll give you 
>> this, the OE2I headphones I have will give you Cinimatic bace, but like I 
>> said for the real sharp crisp attack on your ear drums from the smack of the 
>> whip in the Malazia vid of a guy being wwhipped for drinking beer, well, the 
>> Apple Ear Pods even do better at that. As  will the Soundlink Mini from 
>> bose. Funny enough this also sounds better on my companion 5 system. So I 
>> thought it's to protect your ears. I now realize it is indeed a quality 
>> thing because even with out the cousions that whip doesn't really attack 
>> your drums. Also and I know I always bring her up, but the 98 Zilla also 
>> doesn't sound any better threw the drivers them selves. Again my Apple ear 
>> pods beat the pants off of Bose. So will my JBL speakers in my Samsung TV. I 
>> was surprised to see this. I was all like seriously? Is this really 
>> happening? The TV has even beat the pants off of the Companion 5 system for 
>> Zilla's wistle sound? Are you kidding me right now? The only thing from bose 
>> that I've listened to where she sounds pretty good is the soundlink System 
>> 3. Pluss you get the cinematic bass for the foot steps. Which I will grant 
>> the SL Mini do that. As do the headset.s. Oh well. Oh yeah the lifestyle 
>> systems can't handle DTS HD Master Audio directly. Tthose are Bose's short 
>> commings for me. But they are pretty good other than that. It just shocks me 
>> that the Apple ear pods do better at crispness. I'm not into Drey's beats. 
>> Tried the ear buds and meh not too cool. I did try the pill too, Zilla's 
>> tornado blast is okay but as there's hardly any bass, well not cool when she 
>> walks. Oh well.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 4:31 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Bose and B&W
>> 
>> Similar story here, I never believe that any company is best at anything let 
>> alone Bose.  My first Bose product was a Bose Wave Radio and - when I got it 
>> - I found the sound amazing though radio performance was very poor, I 
>> believe this has changed in the latest generation of Wave Radio.
>> 
>> Anyhow it didn’t take me long - as I read more and more audiophile reviews 
>> on different products - to question just how good Bose sounded, surely if it 
>> was any good then Audiophiles would be raving about the stuff but the 
>> silence was deafening.
>> 
>> As list members will know, one of my interests is Audio Streaming and it has 
>> been stated by many people at various times that one of the best streaming 
>> clients for AirPlay is the B&W range which includes the A5, A7, Z2 and so 
>> on, if such products were so highly regarded then it seemed sensible to me 
>> to plan and get one which I did, I bought the A5 19 months ago and compared 
>> to the Bose Wave Radio? Well quite frankly the B&W A5 just makes the Bose 
>> sound as though its at the bottom of a hole literally, the Wave System 
>> sounds absolutely dull and boring and I think I’m very much able to 
>> appreciate the following quotation, “No Highs just Lows, that sounds like 
>> Bose” <smile>, a little exaggerated perhaps because the highs are there but 
>> they’re swamped by the loose base.
>> 
>>> On 5 Oct 2015, at 7:20 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's also perhaps getting him stuck and it did me too is all the better 
>>> sound threw research stuff and the most respected name in sound stuff. 
>>> That's why I couldn't believe there could be better when I watched 
>>> Falkinlazer on youtube. What finally convinced me was that vid he did of 
>>> oddly enough I think it was some BNW speakers. Like I told you Dain this 
>>> threw his kind of meh camara the X Wings sounded clearer louder and sharper 
>>> then I had ever heard them. Sadly I think those speakers what ever they 
>>> were I can't remember right now, are ceveral thousand dolars. I want them.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 1:50 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Bose and B&W
>>> 
>>> You’re taking it too personally Angus, no one said you didn’t like your 
>>> music and I’m sure you do but - it would appear from your eMail 
>>> contributions to this discussion - that you haven’t yet heard just how 
>>> wonderful your music will sound and I understand that.
>>> 
>>> I’ve been down the Bose road with headphones so again, go and listen to a 
>>> pair of B&W P7’s or the AKG model Mary mentioned, take along a couple of 
>>> favourite audio CD’S or some FLAC files and hear the difference for 
>>> yourself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 5 Oct 2015, at 3:39 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Which means i don’t love my music?
>>>> /A
>>>>> 4 okt. 2015 kl. 00:43 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Mary, I know what I’d be buying myself <smile>.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I said it before and I’ll say it again, Bose headphones are Crowd 
>>>>> Pleasers whereas AKG - the particular type Mary is referring to here - 
>>>>> are for those who love their music.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4 Oct 2015, at 9:40 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have never heard a pair of these Bose phones. But for 200 U.S.
>>>>>> dollars, those AKG q701 phones can be had from Amazon. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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