Yes most do own their own domain, but It's not just the domain I was contacting, but the HOST of the domain and the nameservers, which are usually different (not the same as the domain name).
No one is going to complain to my ISP, for one; whomever I send all the email back to in a counter-attack (if any REAL email addresses are given), is engaging in illegal activity so they are not going to complain to anyone to open themselves for criminal prosecution. Hey, I wish they would complain! That just might give me the "avenue" I need to expose them. YES, Asia Pacific (APNIC) is the one of the MAIN CAUSES of the spam in the first place, they are co-conspirators in the abuse with the Asian domains. They are a total waste of time and space. I created a couple of...."real official sounding, legal sounding, *scary* email addresses" just for the purpose of contacting respective ISP's & webhosts. I also use "VERY STRONG language and PROMISES of criminal prosecution" ;-) while quoting the laws governing SPAM attacks. I have never received any spam on these specially created addresses, so they are not spamming them back. (mainly because I would guess, 99% of the time, I have no email address to email the offender back, I can only email their hosts/ISP's, etc). I actually have had pretty good luck getting numerous websites shut down, as well as ISP accounts via IP address ID, and many free email addresses (yahoo, hotmail, mail.com, Lycos, etc). But unfortunately NO luck with the Chinese and other abusive far east domains. -Clint God Bless Us All Clint Hamilton, Owner http://OrpheusComputing.com � ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Clint, > The emails are then fwd'd to ALL email addresses given, including the 'abuse' addresses to EACH respected IP & domain. Even when an abuse address is not given, I send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .net, (AND .cn, .tw, .jp....whatever the offensive Asian domain is) in hopes they will exist (they usually do anyway). < Bad technique! Too many spammers own their own domains, and too many ISPs actively make money by selling rights to spammers. When you complain to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you are just confirming to them that you are a live target suitable for further abuse. Threatening spammers can get you on the "bad guys" list with people like spamcop (IMHO another generally worthless avenue of _intelligent_ spam control). If Bellsouth were ever to receive enough complaints about your use of your personal e-mail address they might decide to cut you off with little or no notice. I have found it to be a complete waste of time to complain to anyone in the APNIC group. One of the reasons I use Juno for my e-mail is that it has a nice incoming filter that can be set to automatically delete mail from entire domains. For example, I have it set to delete everything from "asia.com", ".jp" "e54.org", and others that have sent me nothing but garbage. The offensive mail still comes in, and I get a little message each time I get mail telling me that "X number of messages have been deleted," but I no longer have to wade through it. Based on your comments, I have added "163.com" to my automatic trash list. I wish there were some really effective methods of fighting spam but I don't think there is too much an individual can do. When I wear out the caption on my Delete key, I'll just dab a little red nail polish on it so I remember what it is. :-) Betty Strohm ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
