Yeah that's another inexcusable thing. When I was talking about updates, I meant updates other than the SP's, but if the SP's do that, there may not be any advantage to getting the other updates elsewhere. But at least if you get the updates from elsewhere, the 'update site' can't scan your PC and send info back to MS.
So, does anyone know of some sites that give you ALL the needed updates for an OS OTHER THAN an MS site? I know they exist, I've seen them, but I never thought to save any of them. I didn't think they would be needed....until now. I guess an MS page would be ok as a last resort if they are JUST the download links for each specific update. Although with all the problems I've posted about Windows updates causing, now I'm even more inclined to never mess with them. However, unfortunately some are needed. You know what I think? I think MS PURPOSELY screws up every OS CAUSING it to REQUIRE these almost countless security updates and patches. That way, they can "keep tabs" on all users by forcing them to visit the update site! That too will also come out. I find it VERY hard to believe, that so called "genius software developers" in Seattle & elsewhere cannot create a Windows OS that works as it should 'out of the box' without countless patches. You would think they'd have the common sense to test the "rat" outta these OS's BEFORE releasing them. They obviously do not, and purposely release them with thousands of flaws so the update site will be mandatory. I can understand the Homeland Security Act needing to do certain things; after all, it's a war we're in and they have to do something to get the sleeper cells. But MS has no right. They are only out to gather information to further promote their own personal cause. I'm going to try and bow out of this. I have a feeling this type of thread is going to get some emotions up with some. ;-) -Clint God Bless Us All Clint Hamilton, Owner Want to exchange links with us? http://OrpheusComputing.com � ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Clint and others, Well, I think it was in a recent article in InfoWorld, by Brian Livingston or similar high tech guru, that a really MAJOR eye-opener got revealed. If you can get to the web sites for InfoWorld, ComputerWorld, and other similiar computer news sites, you might want to subscribe to gettting emails from such individuals, since the info they end up knowing is absolutely mind bodgling. Seems that when you install SP1 for XP or SP3 for 2K, you give, as part of the legal gobbaldygook, unconditional right for MS to automatically update the OS withOUT you having to give any ok to what it decides to do in the background. So what this amounts to is that even if you get the SP from some other location, it will not matter since to install it, you have to agress to the licensing info, and this is one of the issues contained in the SP licensing info. There is a MORE ominous issue on the horizon, and it has to do with the homeland security act issues. It seems that one of the parts of the act was to give the government the right to dictate to all ISPs, under threat of legal action, that all members of the ISP had to be fully and completely monitored of all activities involving the ISP - not only internet sites visited but all emails sent and received as well as news groups the person was visiting. And this was to be done without ever informing the person(s) being monitored, in the name of national security operations. I THINK this part was shot down - but how much longer before this country is truly living under Big Brother's ever watchful eyes. Just think, every living and working space will have a TV, BUT the TV will be watching you, not you watching it. Doublespeak is commonly found in use these days all over the place, and getting to be more and more widespread. Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > It's not really a cookie thing that's at issue here, it's MS > *scanning your PC* for personal data, that they > are doing. Even if you blocked all cookies and still could get > to the update site, this would not stop the site from getting > your PC to send personal data back to MS (contrary to their lying > statement that this "NEVER" happens). I have my cooking option > set to "high", and it's a real pain at that setting getting to > many websites. I have to constantly change the setting, since > double-clicking the red - and selecting "always accept cookies > from this site" doesn't work half the time. I empty the cookies > that do manage to get in my temp net files a few times a week, > and only leave those I need. Also blocking all cookies will not > stop spying unscrupulous sites from placing items in the registry > and the downloaded program files folder (like Xupiter and Alexa). > I get 'malicious things in those areas just from a SPAM email, > and my security settings are always max'd out. > > Yeah that's a good idea to say "NO" to those error warnings, I do > the same. However you *should* worry about MS spying, it is > going to become a major problem. What I'm going to start doing, > is getting any Windows OS updates from ELSEWHERE, other than > the "Windows update site". It can be done. I'm not about to > have these 'cyber terrorists' suck info off of my computers into > their "massive collection jar". That's inexcusable. What is > really horrible about it, and the real point for me, is these > jerks have the unmitigated GALL to actually put that comment > on their webpage while the update site is 'scanning your PC', > that reads "This is done WITHOUT sending any information > back to M$"!!!!!!! I always doubted that statement, now I see > with good cause. Those jerks are going to get themselves in > such a legal mess greater than the one they are already in, > that they will go bankrupt. It will be a $100 billion corporate > class action lawsuit case (plus criminal charges) the likes of > the legal system has NEVER seen in history. Since Gates > has 60 Billion and counting, it would take about 100 billion to > get anyone's attention. That case will uncover atrocities that > will stun the world, you mark my words. I bet they have > dedicated storage area for EACH and every one of us!!! > "Big Brother" is an understatement, this is like a UPC barcode > stamped on a billion people that use their products. This > must be stopped. This makes what AOL does look like a > simple "passing hello". It's never bothered me before, > but I'm finding more and more cases regarding M$ spying and > privacy violations, and you just cannot trust a company that > does that. The majority of us have absolutely nothing to hide, > however IMO, that's not the point. I feel as though I'm being > "electronically raped". That *is* what they are doing to users. > I bet they are getting all this personal info, selling it to > spammers and telema*keting firms so they can harass us. > My 2 cents. ;-) > > On a note about SpyBot; I've found that it misses many things > that AdAware finds, AND, AdAware can miss many things that SpyBot > finds! So, I use both. Good idea to use both of them. > -Clint ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
