I should point out again that it's not so much any SPAM problem I'm having due to this list, it's the UCE emails (as the name implies here more so in this case; *UNSOLICITED* emails) that are bothering me. I have received plain SPAM before some time back due to this list and had to delete my email address and sub under another again, but since then it hasn't happened much. My chief complaint is people emailing my address now for private support for their name brand PC's with which the manufacturer refuses to help them; or asking for drivers or software; how to fix certain problems; etc., all which I touched on the archives. They see all my replies in the archives found in some search engine search, then it's "Hey, let's email this guy and see if he knows" sort of thing that is then transpiring.
I've been talking to mail-archive.com about this, and these jerks are basically saying "if you don't like it, then tough". They also "claimed" that this now infamous button now in the archives at the bottom of every single post page "Reply via email to [whomever]" was ALWAYS THERE, which is BS. I've never seen it before, and several that contacted me off list also said they've never seen it before. To my knowledge Peter, there have NEVER been any email addresses in the archives, not even in the form of images (until this button). Any email addresses that may have been in the message bodies of posts or replies to posts, are replaced with "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" instead of the email address, which I always thought was a sensible and great thing. If you check your post below in the archives, the email address you put in your message body has been replaced with this "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" tag. Personally I have no problem with email lists being archived, nor indexed by Search Engines. I think archives are a must for many helpful reasons, but also Lord knows how many times I've searched using an SE to find info on something and in the results many hits were from email lists' archives. I then went to respected list's archives and found needed info. The problem is having members' email addresses from said email lists in public view for public usage/abuse; which again IMO is a privacy violation and mark my words, WILL ALSO be a security issue. If anyone wants to lodge a complaint about this usage of our email addresses in the archives, send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I'm REALLY NOT trying to launch some kind of "campaign" against Mail-Archive.com, but I DO NOT APPRECAITE this abuse of my email address nor my time, and I know I'm not alone. I've had a few off list emails expressing the same. -Clint Happy Holidays to all & God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://OrpheusComputing.com http://ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Kaulback Happy holidays everyone! I use a number of lists with this address and I do not get any spam with it, unlike my previous address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) which was circulated for 5 years. I've seen some discussions over harvesters being run on lists where owners have switched showing addresses in text over to showing them as graphics, I remember this list did it at one time, why it stopped I do not know. Perhaps Marlene can explain? Now many lists that use secure(?) archives where only subscribed members may access the messages have benefited from that as well. I am on a few lists with extremely high traffic in the 600 posts a day range and I do not receive spam from them or because of them, coincidentally they are all on yahoo groups (go figure). As with this list too, I do not get any spam, my spam filters at my email host are very active though not on this particular address. My email addys for web dev groups are spammed the most. You're quite diplomatic Clint, I would like to know if any other persons who do answer the questions also have spam problems with the list. Peter Kaulback Support-OrpheusComputing.com wrote: (Peter I thought we got your email program sorted out the other day, but I still can't get your posts! I found this in the archives. I'll have to check my email filters again). Thanks for the info. That may be that it is secure, but that doesn't stop anyone from clicking the email address links and sending emails to those that post. That is my main problem now. I got several more emails today from "strangers" asking me various things about my posts (wanting me to send them drivers, software, info, etc). It's only a matter of time before spammers find their way into the email addresses, and note the comment "known SpamBots". There are many bots that are currently UNknown, and as well know all it takes is ONE TIME to destroy a business or screw-up a person's life. I don't see the point of doing this (having members' addresses at the archive site). Believe me, nothing good can come from it. Other than my customers, I answer emails **from THIS LIST and this list ONLY** regarding support because from time to time I have to post questions here. Even though I rarely get answers, I like to give back more than I receive from the list. If I wanted I could set my list mail to "no mail" and only re-sub when I need answers, but I don't, that's not right. I don't have any more time on my hands to answer emails from every "Tom, Dick and Harry non-list member" if you know what I mean. ;-) And, it's rather irritating to receive them. I'm not ranting at you, it's just the fact that this "breech" exists. :-) This is only something recent, so I really question the "logic" behind mail-archive.com doing such a thing. To me, this is a privacy issue and list members SHOULD have the OPTION of making their email addresses public or not. Most of the list members may not have a problem with it since most list members only post questions. It's..... (how do I put this diplomatically)............hmmm......those like myself, you, Hugh, Tom and t0m, Jeff, Keith, Ben, Jim, Sue, Roger W., Karl, John O., and a few others, that do most of the replying with answers or help--it is us that's going to be the ones that are going to be getting these emails such as I've been receiving, since *in the archives* we may appear to be a bit more knowledgeable than most list members regarding computers and the net. (That come out right? ;-) The more one of us replies with help to members that ask for help, the more likely we are to receive these personal types of emails from these non-list members. -Clint ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
