On Jun 28, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:



--- On Tue, 6/28/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> wrote:

From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs
To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancs...@yahoo.com>
Cc: pd-dev@iem.at
Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 6:27 AM

On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:



--- On Mon, 6/27/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>
wrote:

From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>
Subject: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs
To: pd-dev@iem.at
Date: Monday, June 27, 2011, 9:21 PM

Now that the core Pd docs (i.e. /usr/lib/pd/doc/*)
are
split out into a
separate Debian package, I think it could make
sense to
package the PDDP
docs in a kind of mirror or replacement package.
Something like
pddp-doc.  Jonathan, in particular, I was
thinking
that since you have
wanted to work on all the patches there, we could
set it up
so the
pddp-doc package mirrors the whole
/usr/lib/pd/doc*
directory and patch
structure, have this in SVN, git, or whatever
somewhere.  Then people
could choose the pddp-doc package if they so
choose.

The PDDP docs I did are all for vanilla objects
(exceptions are
expr family, and the other "vanilla" extras).  If
a new user clicks
"Help" on a vanilla object, it should show the revised
PDDP help
patch by default.

So instead of what you propose, please make something
like a
legacy-vanilla-help package.  That way, if
someone really prefers
the old docs, they can still find them, and we won't
waste new users' time
by forcing them to use outdated and unmaintained docs
(until they figure
out they're supposed to download a separate package
for the current
vanilla help patches, which nobody has to do for any
of the external
packages).

-Jonathan


I agree that the PDDP docs are much better, that's why I
want to get them out there more.  Part of packaging is
representing the upstream as it is and letting the user
decide.  So I think it makes sense to keep puredata-doc
as what's included in the official tarball.  As for
Pd-extended, I think it should still use the PDDP docs, so
like you say, showing the PDDP docs by default.

Ok.


So we just need a plan of attack. If you can lead up this project, I will help as much as I can. Do you want to include the whole docs tree in the doc/pddp SVN? Or something else? It seems to me the easiest would be to start a separate repository for them, like on SourceForge, pddp is available: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pddp

Or we could reorganize doc/pddp in the pure-data SVN.

.hc

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