--- On Tue, 6/28/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 11:00 PM > > On Jun 28, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs > >> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <[email protected]> > >> Cc: [email protected] > >> Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 8:52 PM > >> > >> On Jun 28, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner > <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp > docs > >>>> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <[email protected]> > >>>> Cc: [email protected] > >>>> Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 7:20 PM > >>>> > >>>> On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Jonathan > Wilkes > >> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm already kind of doing that > with > >> pd-l2ork. > >>>>>> I've revised Miller's > >>>>>>> control/audio/ds tutorials. > >> Pd-l2ork has > >>>> fixed > >>>>>> the crasher bug when > >>>>>>> a patch closes itself, so I've > got a > >>>> navigation > >>>>>> toolbar in those > >>>>>>> tutorials > >>>>>>> that is currently incompatible > with > >>>>>> pd-extended/vanilla. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I had no idea. Ico seems to > work on > >> his > >>>> own. It > >>>>>> would be great to > >>>>>> have those bug fixes submitted to > the > >> patch > >>>> tracker. > >>>>>> The patch > >>>>>> tracker is what Miller, IOhannes, > Martin > >> Peach, me > >>>> and > >>>>>> others use for > >>>>>> keeping track of patches that are > meant to > >> go > >>>> into > >>>>>> pure-data core. > >>>>> > >>>>> He's also working off 0.42 currently, > so > >> submitting to > >>>> the > >>>>> tracker would be pointless. I > think > >> someone was > >>>> working > >>>>> to port the changes forward to 0.43, > but Ico > >> is > >>>> currently > >>>>> on vacation and I'm not sure where > they are in > >> the > >>>> process. > >>>> > >>>> I merged in a couple things from l2ork, > like Joe > >> Sarlo's > >>>> Magic Glass and inlet/outlet > highlighting. > >> More > >>>> patches would be great to have. > >>> > >>> As far as I understand there are a lot of > changes in > >> Pd-l2ork > >>> to core Pd, and if you accepted them into > Pd-extended > >> it would > >>> introduce more discrepancies between vanilla > and > >> extended. If > >>> that's a possibility you'd entertain to get > the some > >> of the > >>> functionality that pd-l2ork adds, then I can > help with > >> this > >>> process. > >> > >> > >> Bug fixes should definitely be included, other > patches are > >> on a case by case basis. Accepting patches > is a time > >> consuming process, especially if the patch > submitted are not > >> super clean or has not been thoroughly > tested. That's > >> the main reason for patches to be rejected or > ignored. > >> > >> I've gone thru a lot of patches from l2ork before, > and > >> found that they were not well tested, sometimes > didn't even > >> apply cleanly, and sometimes introduced new > bugs. It > >> seems that Ico didn't want to work thru the patch > process, > >> and instead is working on a fork. That's a > good way to > >> develop solid, well tested patches so it could be > that a lot > >> of the l2ork stuff is ready to be resubmitted. > > > > Well, like I said, it's still based off 0.42. > When it gets ported > > to 0.43, maybe we can figure out a way to do this. > > > While the pd-gui Tcl code is very different, most of the pd > C code was > unchanged in 0.42 --> 0.43. So stuff that doesn't > really touch the > Tcl code should be really easy to apply to 0.43. Speaking of which: Just found a crasher bug with the $@ in pd-extended nightly build: Bug ID: 3342314 > > .hc > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, > but we are > deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit > from > scarcity." -John Gilmore > > > _______________________________________________ Pd-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
