On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Should we let snarkiness end this discussion? I thought it was actually pretty productive til this little bit...

You can still work around my comments, and continue this discussion, but what I'm trying to say is that you can't necessarily just wave some word like "intuitive" and explain nothing about why you use it and expect people to just nod and call it productive.

Go be productive with your intuitivity if you will, but when I make a comment like that, it's because I'm concerned that something is going the wrong way. I don't mock for the sake of mocking.

If there can't be any disapproval of your ways, then why do you look like you want to get some approval at all? You can simply change the numberbox in pd-extended so as to suit your fancy and that would be the end of the story.

Now if you could simply present your reasons to believe that a numberbox may be unintuitive to beginners in a way so significant that it warrants avoiding it, ... it sounds curious, so, I'm curious. Do you think sliders are nonintuitive as well? Pd's sliders are pretty nonstandard as far as UIs go.

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