On Mar 25, 2009, at 3:03 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:





--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Steffen Juul <st...@dibidut.dk> wrote:

From: Steffen Juul <st...@dibidut.dk>
Subject: Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended
To: "Pd List" <pd-list@iem.at>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 7:48 AM
On 24/03/2009, at 18.10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Scrolling in a number box is not a standard GUI
interaction, and not particularly intuitive.

So thats the initial reason. Chancing the numberbox to a
slider could live together with not making the colour
changes i opposed to (- i shall not repeat it).

Actually, could you repeat it? I searched the thread and couldn't find any remarks about the color.

If your point is that the tutorials are completely black and white, and that having a gop abstraction with colored gui's would be distracting-- I've thought about that, too. But if that turns out to be the case it's a simple fix of just changing the slider and bng back to white (but maybe leaving the dsp-indicator green so you can quickly see if it's on or not).

Pd-extended is now setup to use a version of this with very tamed color (attached). I think its important to have the GUIs something other than white to make them look solid and clickable. But yes, too much color would be distracting. Some color also attracts the eye just enough so that people know that its important, because really, without turning on the output~, the rest of the patch is kind of useless.

.hc

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Also I've meet Pd sliders i could not recognize as
sliders for a while. As a total it took me longer to learn
sliders then numberboxes, since the looks of sliders can be
altered so much.

I rest my case, I don't think i get through.

Happy hacking.



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