On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:15:01PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Andy Farnell wrote: > >> What Plato tried to address in thought, like Godel in logic was that we >> are "incomplete", if there is universality, a one, a good, and there is >> an I to observe it, but still be of the one, it must invoke a third >> concept, an existential relation. And that's where the tear begins. >> Here in the 21st Century the wound still bleeds. > > Is it bleeding or is that just something said from the perspective of > innocence, as if in a previous world, logic would have been complete ? > > If a complete and consistent self-referential logic system is impossible, > then this is something that has to be accepted as having been always > true, and our conception of the world has to be rebraided according to > that truth. It's not useful to keep holding an old ideal of universality > that looks like a measuring stick with which we assess an increasing rift > between our fantasies and the consciousness of our own limits. > > Gödel in the Garden of Eden bites into the fruit of [...] and it all went > downhill from there. ;)
Oh I just Kant take any more of this. Chris. ------------------- http://mccormick.cx _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
