Also it would be cool to finally have a help file for [samplerate~], so users
are more likely to understand and avoid its pitfalls (mainly with overlapping
subpatches). I just made one, see the attachment.
Just in case you actually plan to include a help patch for [vsnapshot~], it
would be great to mention that - unlike [vline~] - it's only sample accurate
and not subsample accurate. I could, however, easily make a subsample accurate
version of [vsnapshot~] as an abstraction, so I'm wondering if this difference
in behaviour is actually on purpose or rather a bug?
Christof
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. April 2016 um 06:07 Uhr
Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <por...@gmail.com>
An: "Miller Puckette" <mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu>
Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" <pd-list@lists.iem.at>
Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released
a few other things I think we could easily sneak into the next release, related
to documentation.
1- re-include "paf~" external - it could be brought back now that its patent is
over, The F13 example still mentions the existence of this object, so an
external should exist or this mention needs to be removed.
https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1206/
2- there's no help for [vnsapshot~], include one?
https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1205/[https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1205/]
3- no help file for [clip]
https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1237/[https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1237/]
4 - There are these 2 midi objects in vanilla ([midirealtimein] & [midiclkin])
that have no help file and are not mentioned in the midi-help.pd file, neither
are present in the "MIDI and OSC" section of help-intro.pd
https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1221[https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1221/]
cheers
2016-04-27 12:18 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres
<por...@gmail.com[por...@gmail.com]>:
yeah, apple always complains about installing pd, but once you say "hey, it's
fine, I'm taking the risk" it never bothers you again - as with vanilla 0.46-7
apparently something changed now and is making things harder
cheers
2016-04-27 5:15 GMT-03:00 Pierre Guillot
<guillotpier...@gmail.com[guillotpier...@gmail.com]>:
> which alert window?> what is the "same" you are referring to?
My mistake, I thought having the same problem than Alexandre (the window saying
that the app comes from an unidentified developer).
> no matter how many times i tell mac os it is fine to open pd-47 test, it
> keeps saying it's from an undentified developer...
> anybody else or just me?
But in fact my window says that the app comes from the web. I changed the
privileges of the app, now PD works fine.
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-1;
#X floatatom 27 119 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5;
#X msg 26 248 \; pd dsp 1;
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#X obj 35 85 samplerate~;
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#X floatatom 35 111 8 0 0 0 - - -, f 8;
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#X msg 153 85 set 64 1 \$1;
#X floatatom 153 62 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5;
#X text 197 60 set resampling factor;
#X obj 63 59 loadbang;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 1 0 0 0;
#X connect 4 0 3 0;
#X connect 5 0 4 0;
#X connect 7 0 0 0;
#X restore 25 186 pd resample;
#N canvas 624 194 811 437 overlap 0;
#X obj 37 87 samplerate~;
#X obj 37 64 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X floatatom 37 113 8 0 0 0 - - -, f 8;
#X floatatom 135 61 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5;
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#X obj 36 153 bang~;
#X obj 36 204 timer;
#X msg 135 87 set 1024 \$1 1;
#X floatatom 36 320 8 0 0 1 ms - -, f 8;
#X msg 83 203 1024;
#X obj 83 228 /;
#X obj 124 203 samplerate~;
#X obj 36 175 t b b b b;
#X floatatom 83 276 8 0 0 1 ms - -, f 8;
#X floatatom 124 228 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5;
#X obj 83 250 * 1000;
#X text 162 276 This the theoretical duration of a block of 1024 samples
for the global samplerate;
#X text 214 204 global sample rate \, no deliberate up/downsampling
;
#X obj 60 63 loadbang;
#X obj 135 118 block~ 1024 4 1;
#X text 118 320 This is the actual duration. Pd has to speed up the
computation to create all the additional blocks needed for overlapping.
This means that Pd is actually upsampling by a factor of N (= overlap
factor)., f 69;
#X text 118 365 [samplerate~] \, however \, does NOT reflect this kind
of implicit upsampling!;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 1 0 0 0;
#X connect 3 0 7 0;
#X connect 5 0 12 0;
#X connect 6 0 8 0;
#X connect 7 0 19 0;
#X connect 9 0 10 0;
#X connect 10 0 15 0;
#X connect 11 0 14 0;
#X connect 11 0 10 1;
#X connect 12 0 6 0;
#X connect 12 1 6 1;
#X connect 12 2 9 0;
#X connect 12 3 11 0;
#X connect 15 0 13 0;
#X connect 18 0 0 0;
#X restore 26 217 pd overlap;
#X text 23 155 [samplerate~] + [block~]:;
#X text 118 216 but it doesn't reflect overlapping, f 37;
#X text 115 186 [samplerate~] reflects up/downsampling;
#X text 52 70 bang to retrieve current samplerate;
#X text 115 35 get the samplerate in a subpatch;
#X connect 1 0 3 0;
#X connect 2 0 1 0;
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#X obj 21 163 vsnapshot~;
#X obj 131 3 loadbang;
#X obj 179 24 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
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#X obj 20 1 bang~;
#X obj 51 125 del;
#X floatatom 21 185 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5;
#X floatatom 89 126 5 0 0 1 scroll_me - -, f 5;
#X msg 254 51 \; pd dsp 1;
#X text 21 206 NOT subsample accurate;
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#X msg 21 66 0 \, 64 \$1;
#X obj 21 42 f;
#X obj 21 21 t b b;
#X obj 131 24 t b b;
#X obj 163 52 samplerate~;
#X msg 131 53 64;
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#X connect 0 0 5 0;
#X connect 1 0 13 0;
#X connect 2 0 13 0;
#X connect 3 0 12 0;
#X connect 4 0 0 0;
#X connect 6 0 4 1;
#X connect 9 0 0 0;
#X connect 10 0 9 0;
#X connect 11 0 10 0;
#X connect 12 0 11 0;
#X connect 12 1 4 0;
#X connect 13 0 15 0;
#X connect 13 1 14 0;
#X connect 13 1 7 0;
#X connect 14 0 16 1;
#X connect 15 0 16 0;
#X connect 16 0 17 0;
#X connect 17 0 18 0;
#X connect 18 0 11 1;
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