Are you sure you really want to change the behaviour instead of just documenting it? Won't this break all overlapping FFTs patches which rely on a [samplerate~] object? If one wants the 'correct' behaviour for overlapping, he/she could use [iem_samplerate~] which was designed for this very purpose...
> Gesendet: Samstag, 30. April 2016 um 19:49 Uhr > Von: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu> > An: "Christof Ressi" <christof.re...@gmx.at> > Cc: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <por...@gmail.com>, "pd-list@lists.iem.at" > <pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released > > I fixed the (incorrect) samplerate~ behavior... it should be now working > correctly (and thus can make do with a simpler help file :) > > M > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:40:25AM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > > Also it would be cool to finally have a help file for [samplerate~], so > > users are more likely to understand and avoid its pitfalls (mainly with > > overlapping subpatches). I just made one, see the attachment. > > > > Just in case you actually plan to include a help patch for [vsnapshot~], it > > would be great to mention that - unlike [vline~] - it's only sample > > accurate and not subsample accurate. I could, however, easily make a > > subsample accurate version of [vsnapshot~] as an abstraction, so I'm > > wondering if this difference in behaviour is actually on purpose or rather > > a bug? > > > > Christof > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. April 2016 um 06:07 Uhr > > Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <por...@gmail.com> > > An: "Miller Puckette" <mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu> > > Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" <pd-list@lists.iem.at> > > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released > > > > a few other things I think we could easily sneak into the next release, > > related to documentation. > > > > 1- re-include "paf~" external - it could be brought back now that its > > patent is over, The F13 example still mentions the existence of this > > object, so an external should exist or this mention needs to be removed. > > https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1206/ > > > > > > > > 2- there's no help for [vnsapshot~], include one? > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1205/[https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1205/] > > 3- no help file for [clip] > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1237/[https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1237/] > > > > 4 - There are these 2 midi objects in vanilla ([midirealtimein] & > > [midiclkin]) that have no help file and are not mentioned in the > > midi-help.pd file, neither are present in the "MIDI and OSC" section of > > help-intro.pd > > https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1221[https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1221/] > > > > cheers > > > > > > 2016-04-27 12:18 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres > > <por...@gmail.com[por...@gmail.com]>: > > yeah, apple always complains about installing pd, but once you say "hey, > > it's fine, I'm taking the risk" it never bothers you again - as with > > vanilla 0.46-7 > > > > apparently something changed now and is making things harder > > > > cheers > > > > > > 2016-04-27 5:15 GMT-03:00 Pierre Guillot > > <guillotpier...@gmail.com[guillotpier...@gmail.com]>: > > > > > which alert window?> what is the "same" you are referring to? > > > > My mistake, I thought having the same problem than Alexandre (the window > > saying that the app comes from an unidentified developer). > > > > > no matter how many times i tell mac os it is fine to open pd-47 test, it > > > keeps saying it's from an undentified developer... > > > anybody else or just me? > > > > But in fact my window says that the app comes from the web. I changed the > > privileges of the app, now PD works fine. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at[Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list[https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list] > > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at > > mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list[https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list] > > > #N canvas 843 167 447 292 10; > > #X obj 28 35 samplerate~; > > #X obj 27 97 samplerate~; > > #X obj 27 72 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 > > -1; > > #X floatatom 27 119 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5; > > #X msg 26 248 \; pd dsp 1; > > #N canvas 659 314 450 300 resample 0; > > #X obj 35 85 samplerate~; > > #X obj 35 62 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 > > -1; > > #X floatatom 35 111 8 0 0 0 - - -, f 8; > > #X obj 153 112 block~ 64 1 4; > > #X msg 153 85 set 64 1 \$1; > > #X floatatom 153 62 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5; > > #X text 197 60 set resampling factor; > > #X obj 63 59 loadbang; > > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > > #X connect 4 0 3 0; > > #X connect 5 0 4 0; > > #X connect 7 0 0 0; > > #X restore 25 186 pd resample; > > #N canvas 624 194 811 437 overlap 0; > > #X obj 37 87 samplerate~; > > #X obj 37 64 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 > > -1; > > #X floatatom 37 113 8 0 0 0 - - -, f 8; > > #X floatatom 135 61 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5; > > #X text 179 59 set overlap; > > #X obj 36 153 bang~; > > #X obj 36 204 timer; > > #X msg 135 87 set 1024 \$1 1; > > #X floatatom 36 320 8 0 0 1 ms - -, f 8; > > #X msg 83 203 1024; > > #X obj 83 228 /; > > #X obj 124 203 samplerate~; > > #X obj 36 175 t b b b b; > > #X floatatom 83 276 8 0 0 1 ms - -, f 8; > > #X floatatom 124 228 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5; > > #X obj 83 250 * 1000; > > #X text 162 276 This the theoretical duration of a block of 1024 samples > > for the global samplerate; > > #X text 214 204 global sample rate \, no deliberate up/downsampling > > ; > > #X obj 60 63 loadbang; > > #X obj 135 118 block~ 1024 4 1; > > #X text 118 320 This is the actual duration. Pd has to speed up the > > computation to create all the additional blocks needed for overlapping. > > This means that Pd is actually upsampling by a factor of N (= overlap > > factor)., f 69; > > #X text 118 365 [samplerate~] \, however \, does NOT reflect this kind > > of implicit upsampling!; > > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > > #X connect 3 0 7 0; > > #X connect 5 0 12 0; > > #X connect 6 0 8 0; > > #X connect 7 0 19 0; > > #X connect 9 0 10 0; > > #X connect 10 0 15 0; > > #X connect 11 0 14 0; > > #X connect 11 0 10 1; > > #X connect 12 0 6 0; > > #X connect 12 1 6 1; > > #X connect 12 2 9 0; > > #X connect 12 3 11 0; > > #X connect 15 0 13 0; > > #X connect 18 0 0 0; > > #X restore 26 217 pd overlap; > > #X text 23 155 [samplerate~] + [block~]:; > > #X text 118 216 but it doesn't reflect overlapping, f 37; > > #X text 115 186 [samplerate~] reflects up/downsampling; > > #X text 52 70 bang to retrieve current samplerate; > > #X text 115 35 get the samplerate in a subpatch; > > #X connect 1 0 3 0; > > #X connect 2 0 1 0; > > > #N canvas 805 271 655 300 10; > > #X obj 21 163 vsnapshot~; > > #X obj 131 3 loadbang; > > #X obj 179 24 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 > > -1; > > #X obj 20 1 bang~; > > #X obj 51 125 del; > > #X floatatom 21 185 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5; > > #X floatatom 89 126 5 0 0 1 scroll_me - -, f 5; > > #X msg 254 51 \; pd dsp 1; > > #X text 21 206 NOT subsample accurate; > > #X obj 21 90 vline~; > > #X msg 21 66 0 \, 64 \$1; > > #X obj 21 42 f; > > #X obj 21 21 t b b; > > #X obj 131 24 t b b; > > #X obj 163 52 samplerate~; > > #X msg 131 53 64; > > #X obj 131 77 /; > > #X obj 131 99 * 1000; > > #X floatatom 70 43 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5; > > #X connect 0 0 5 0; > > #X connect 1 0 13 0; > > #X connect 2 0 13 0; > > #X connect 3 0 12 0; > > #X connect 4 0 0 0; > > #X connect 6 0 4 1; > > #X connect 9 0 0 0; > > #X connect 10 0 9 0; > > #X connect 11 0 10 0; > > #X connect 12 0 11 0; > > #X connect 12 1 4 0; > > #X connect 13 0 15 0; > > #X connect 13 1 14 0; > > #X connect 13 1 7 0; > > #X connect 14 0 16 1; > > #X connect 15 0 16 0; > > #X connect 16 0 17 0; > > #X connect 17 0 18 0; > > #X connect 18 0 11 1; > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
