Ok, makes sense. A [date] object would still be useful for my case: generating filenames with timestamps. :)
That's why I was thinking of some sort of [seed] or [salt] object which would wrap reading from a default pseudo-random source such as /dev/random or some system equivalent. > On May 31, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu> wrote: > > The Pi always boots at a constant date (no battery to keep a clock running). > > cheers > M > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 01:14:08PM -0500, Dan Wilcox wrote: >> I was thinking it would just return the posix date via outlets or a list. >> Why would Pd need to save the previous date? >> >>> On May 31, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Warning: [date] won't work so well on Raspberry Pi startup scripts (no >>> way to save date from boot to boot). >>> >>> I think the best vanilla way on linux or mac is to read /dev/random into >>> an array using soundfiler. >>> >>> cheers >>> Miller >>> >>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 01:00:40PM -0500, Dan Wilcox wrote: >>>> Yeah. I could use it as [date] is the only reason I have zexy installed >>>> right now. >>>> >>>>> On May 31, 2018, at 12:56 PM, hans w. koch <hansw.k...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> wouldn´t it be more interesting/useful to incorporate a [date] object >>>>> into vanilla pd, from which it would be trivial to generate unique seeds, >>>>> but which also could be used in (many) other contexts? >>>>> >>>>> hans >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Am 31.05.2018 um 19:21 schrieb Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> It would relatively easy to add a right outlet to [random]. Another >>>>>> option might be an explicit [seed] object which could give you further >>>>>> control or perhaps some creation flags for [random] as well. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> you still have control on the seed... just seed it >>>>>>> >>>>>>> no because you need to add an extra outlet to [random] and prints out >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> seed value. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or even seed it with the system time on creation? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if one adds now this behaviour one need to put a flag for backward >>>>>>> compatibility. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what if [seed( without argument would take the current system time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this could be an idea but one need the second outlet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ciao >>>>>>> -Marco Matteo Markidis >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- >>>>>> Dan Wilcox >>>>>> @danomatika >>>>>> danomatika.com >>>>>> robotcowboy.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> Dan Wilcox >>>> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> >>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> >>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> -------- >> Dan Wilcox >> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>> >> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com/ >> <http://danomatika.com/>> >> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com/ >> <http://robotcowboy.com/>> >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
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