but couldn´t that pi limitation worked around by a loadbang -delay combo to read a date, once the system has established one? would need mention in the helpfile though.
currently i use [shell] to read a date/hour into pd. it works well (e.g. in an installation, where i cue this every second, running since mid march), but always wondered, why there was no native way. time stamped filenames would be another good use, among many others. i even made a donation once, to have this in mobmuplat. cheers hans > Am 31.05.2018 um 20:20 schrieb Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com>: > > Ok, makes sense. A [date] object would still be useful for my case: > generating filenames with timestamps. :) > > That's why I was thinking of some sort of [seed] or [salt] object which would > wrap reading from a default pseudo-random source such as /dev/random or some > system equivalent. > >> On May 31, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu> wrote: >> >> The Pi always boots at a constant date (no battery to keep a clock running). >> >> cheers >> M >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 01:14:08PM -0500, Dan Wilcox wrote: >>> I was thinking it would just return the posix date via outlets or a list. >>> Why would Pd need to save the previous date? >>> >>>> On May 31, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Warning: [date] won't work so well on Raspberry Pi startup scripts (no >>>> way to save date from boot to boot). >>>> >>>> I think the best vanilla way on linux or mac is to read /dev/random into >>>> an array using soundfiler. >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> Miller >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 01:00:40PM -0500, Dan Wilcox wrote: >>>>> Yeah. I could use it as [date] is the only reason I have zexy installed >>>>> right now. >>>>> >>>>>> On May 31, 2018, at 12:56 PM, hans w. koch <hansw.k...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> wouldn´t it be more interesting/useful to incorporate a [date] object >>>>>> into vanilla pd, from which it would be trivial to generate unique >>>>>> seeds, but which also could be used in (many) other contexts? >>>>>> >>>>>> hans >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 31.05.2018 um 19:21 schrieb Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It would relatively easy to add a right outlet to [random]. Another >>>>>>> option might be an explicit [seed] object which could give you further >>>>>>> control or perhaps some creation flags for [random] as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you still have control on the seed... just seed it >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> no because you need to add an extra outlet to [random] and prints out >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> seed value. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or even seed it with the system time on creation? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if one adds now this behaviour one need to put a flag for backward >>>>>>>> compatibility. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> what if [seed( without argument would take the current system time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this could be an idea but one need the second outlet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ciao >>>>>>>> -Marco Matteo Markidis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------- >>>>>>> Dan Wilcox >>>>>>> @danomatika >>>>>>> danomatika.com >>>>>>> robotcowboy.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------- >>>>> Dan Wilcox >>>>> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> >>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> >>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>> >>> -------- >>> Dan Wilcox >>> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> >>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> >>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > -------- > Dan Wilcox > @danomatika > danomatika.com > robotcowboy.com > > > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list