It depends on your workflow. For PdParty, you can stream *all* live sensor 
events over OSC while prototyping in desktop Pd, which is sufficient for my use 
case. Then again, I don’t use my mobile device as an everything computer, so I 
suppose I’m biased.

enohp ym morf tnes
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Dan Wilcox
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com


> On Feb 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Matevz Leskovsek <matevz.leskov...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Dan thanks! Yes your considerations are reasonable but sadly pd has
> really lost its "livecoding" angle when Android/iOS devices became so
> popular. Smartphones are portable and have so many sensors that
> livecoding on android would really make much more sense than coding on
> desktop and deploying to smartphone for each change. I hope there will
> be some effort to rewrite pd-lib to run in stock android and I am
> willing to help (although I am worst programmer ever.. I am kinda good
> tester and profiler though). And if it is actually possible to run
> pd-lib on rooted android that is interesting but I am somewhat
> suspicious. If there is a linux container for androids that would be
> easier I guess (but not so RAM friendly). Btw, I've noticed purrdata
> js runtime for pd is available but again I think it does not allow
> patch creation/editing, only patch running? Btw, pddroidparty webpage
> is really nicely organised and clear in its communication -> much
> respect! Thanks!
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 12:21 AM Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Howdy Matevz,
>> 
>> I don't believe so, although I must include the caveat tat I do not use 
>> Android, so perhaps there is something out there I am not aware of.
>> 
>> Running patches via libpd in a mobile app is much easier than creating a 
>> live, graphical *editor* as with desktop Pd as:
>> 
>> 1. the interaction metaphors are different
>> 2. libpd does not have a way to tap into the core pd editing logic (yet)
>> 
>> That being said (written?), it's certainly possible to create something that 
>> can automate writing a Pd file which can then be loaded by libpd, however, 
>> once things complicated enough, you basically end up duplicating most of the 
>> core logic with the detriment that you have to carefully try to keep it up 
>> to date with whatever version of pd / libpd you are using. In short: it's a 
>> lot of thankless work that is best *not* done without lots of interest, 
>> resources, and support.
>> 
>> The closest thing I can think of is rooting the device to install a Linux 
>> distro so you can run *desktop* Pd, however I don't think this is where your 
>> question is focused.
>> 
>> As the author of PdParty, which utilizes libpd on iOS, I made a clear 
>> decision early on to *not* tackle on-device editing, mainly for the reasons 
>> mentioned above.
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 10:44:58 +0100
>> From: Matevz Leskovsek <matevz.leskov...@gmail.com>
>> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
>> Subject: [PD] Creating/editing patches on android?
>> Message-ID:
>> <caesqpf7mq+slkczqo848oq9lweocuzjvpvhxvqysfvkz+gt...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> Hi all, as I remember all those PD on Android platforms (mobmuplat,
>> pddroid) only allowed running patches and not editing those, meaning
>> that one needed a desktop computer to create and edit patches. Is this
>> still the case or is it possible now to use Android device for
>> creating and running pd patches. Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> --------
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika
>> danomatika.com
>> robotcowboy.com
>> 
>> 
>> 



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