Well I kinda abandoned all desktop OS about 10 years ago, just running chromiumOS everywhere now and patiently waiting for all runtimes to become available in cloud :D Also I dont run crostini or crossover or other any WM.. yes, its a simple life :D I just kept one windows computer to run VSTs and OBS studio, otherwise chromebooks and android devices for everything :) But I miss pd heavily... btw i saw your APK builder for pddroid - awesome! Google wants aab bundles now though, which is really annoying, so I guess we will abandon google play eventually and use some alternative repo/installer. Anyhow, if someone has an idea how to edit patches on stock android devices or on chromebooks that would be great!
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 12:52 PM Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It depends on your workflow. For PdParty, you can stream *all* live sensor > events over OSC while prototyping in desktop Pd, which is sufficient for my > use case. Then again, I don’t use my mobile device as an everything computer, > so I suppose I’m biased. > > enohp ym morf tnes > ----------- > Dan Wilcox > danomatika.com > robotcowboy.com > > > > On Feb 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Matevz Leskovsek <matevz.leskov...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Dan thanks! Yes your considerations are reasonable but sadly pd has > > really lost its "livecoding" angle when Android/iOS devices became so > > popular. Smartphones are portable and have so many sensors that > > livecoding on android would really make much more sense than coding on > > desktop and deploying to smartphone for each change. I hope there will > > be some effort to rewrite pd-lib to run in stock android and I am > > willing to help (although I am worst programmer ever.. I am kinda good > > tester and profiler though). And if it is actually possible to run > > pd-lib on rooted android that is interesting but I am somewhat > > suspicious. If there is a linux container for androids that would be > > easier I guess (but not so RAM friendly). Btw, I've noticed purrdata > > js runtime for pd is available but again I think it does not allow > > patch creation/editing, only patch running? Btw, pddroidparty webpage > > is really nicely organised and clear in its communication -> much > > respect! Thanks! > > > >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 12:21 AM Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Howdy Matevz, > >> > >> I don't believe so, although I must include the caveat tat I do not use > >> Android, so perhaps there is something out there I am not aware of. > >> > >> Running patches via libpd in a mobile app is much easier than creating a > >> live, graphical *editor* as with desktop Pd as: > >> > >> 1. the interaction metaphors are different > >> 2. libpd does not have a way to tap into the core pd editing logic (yet) > >> > >> That being said (written?), it's certainly possible to create something > >> that can automate writing a Pd file which can then be loaded by libpd, > >> however, once things complicated enough, you basically end up duplicating > >> most of the core logic with the detriment that you have to carefully try > >> to keep it up to date with whatever version of pd / libpd you are using. > >> In short: it's a lot of thankless work that is best *not* done without > >> lots of interest, resources, and support. > >> > >> The closest thing I can think of is rooting the device to install a Linux > >> distro so you can run *desktop* Pd, however I don't think this is where > >> your question is focused. > >> > >> As the author of PdParty, which utilizes libpd on iOS, I made a clear > >> decision early on to *not* tackle on-device editing, mainly for the > >> reasons mentioned above. > >> > >> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 10:44:58 +0100 > >> From: Matevz Leskovsek <matevz.leskov...@gmail.com> > >> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at > >> Subject: [PD] Creating/editing patches on android? > >> Message-ID: > >> <caesqpf7mq+slkczqo848oq9lweocuzjvpvhxvqysfvkz+gt...@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >> > >> Hi all, as I remember all those PD on Android platforms (mobmuplat, > >> pddroid) only allowed running patches and not editing those, meaning > >> that one needed a desktop computer to create and edit patches. Is this > >> still the case or is it possible now to use Android device for > >> creating and running pd patches. Thanks! > >> > >> > >> -------- > >> Dan Wilcox > >> @danomatika > >> danomatika.com > >> robotcowboy.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
