Do people really want to *edit* Pd patches on a phone or tablet? To me
this sounds like pure masochism :-D
On 24.02.2023 12:52, Dan Wilcox wrote:
It depends on your workflow. For PdParty, you can stream *all* live sensor
events over OSC while prototyping in desktop Pd, which is sufficient for my use
case. Then again, I don’t use my mobile device as an everything computer, so I
suppose I’m biased.
enohp ym morf tnes
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Dan Wilcox
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On Feb 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Matevz Leskovsek <matevz.leskov...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dan thanks! Yes your considerations are reasonable but sadly pd has
really lost its "livecoding" angle when Android/iOS devices became so
popular. Smartphones are portable and have so many sensors that
livecoding on android would really make much more sense than coding on
desktop and deploying to smartphone for each change. I hope there will
be some effort to rewrite pd-lib to run in stock android and I am
willing to help (although I am worst programmer ever.. I am kinda good
tester and profiler though). And if it is actually possible to run
pd-lib on rooted android that is interesting but I am somewhat
suspicious. If there is a linux container for androids that would be
easier I guess (but not so RAM friendly). Btw, I've noticed purrdata
js runtime for pd is available but again I think it does not allow
patch creation/editing, only patch running? Btw, pddroidparty webpage
is really nicely organised and clear in its communication -> much
respect! Thanks!
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 12:21 AM Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote:
Howdy Matevz,
I don't believe so, although I must include the caveat tat I do not use
Android, so perhaps there is something out there I am not aware of.
Running patches via libpd in a mobile app is much easier than creating a live,
graphical *editor* as with desktop Pd as:
1. the interaction metaphors are different
2. libpd does not have a way to tap into the core pd editing logic (yet)
That being said (written?), it's certainly possible to create something that
can automate writing a Pd file which can then be loaded by libpd, however, once
things complicated enough, you basically end up duplicating most of the core
logic with the detriment that you have to carefully try to keep it up to date
with whatever version of pd / libpd you are using. In short: it's a lot of
thankless work that is best *not* done without lots of interest, resources, and
support.
The closest thing I can think of is rooting the device to install a Linux
distro so you can run *desktop* Pd, however I don't think this is where your
question is focused.
As the author of PdParty, which utilizes libpd on iOS, I made a clear decision
early on to *not* tackle on-device editing, mainly for the reasons mentioned
above.
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From: Matevz Leskovsek <matevz.leskov...@gmail.com>
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: [PD] Creating/editing patches on android?
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Hi all, as I remember all those PD on Android platforms (mobmuplat,
pddroid) only allowed running patches and not editing those, meaning
that one needed a desktop computer to create and edit patches. Is this
still the case or is it possible now to use Android device for
creating and running pd patches. Thanks!
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Dan Wilcox
@danomatika
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com
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