I agree. Tabs should default unless a min version check on the platform fails. 
The original suggestion for making the option to still host dialogs in windows 
was mine, I believe, large for this reason, ie. building for OS X 10.6 and Tk 
8.4 which doesn’t have the tabs widget.

enohp ym morf tnes
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Dan Wilcox
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com


> On Jun 21, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Christof Ressi <i...@christofressi.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> basically, because some TclTk versions on macOS would just crash when using 
>> tabs. 
> Wow, Tk never ceases to amaze me...
> 
> Does this also happen with the Tcl/Tk version that is included in the 
> "official" macOS app bundle?
> 
> Could we do a runtime check for specific Tcl/Tk versions that are known to 
> work?
> 
> I think the tabbed preferences are just so nice and it would be shame to hide 
> them from the user by default...
> 
> (At the very least, we should use tabbed preference by default on Windows and 
> Linux :-)
> 
> Christof
> 
>> On 21.06.2023 00:07, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
>>> On 6/20/23 20:35, Christof Ressi wrote:
>>> First off: thanks Miller for this historic release :-)
>>> 
>>> I just discovered the new tabbed preferences and I really like them! Thanks 
>>> IOhannes!
>>> 
>>> Question: why do we have both tabbed and non-tabbed preferences? This feels 
>>> very weird to me. I don't see any advantages in the non-tabbed 
>>> preferences... (I find them rather grotesque).
>> 
>> basically, because some TclTk versions on macOS would just crash when using 
>> tabs.
>> so I needed a fallback for this case anyhow (that, albeit grotesque, is 
>> still somewhat useable)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> gmds
>> IOhannes
>> 
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