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Dear Golan,

Thanks for this information.

What other devices besides the NexPress consume PPML/VDX?

RE <<Today the PDF2PS in Acrobat can export these COS objects (XObjects) as
PSForms into the PS stream (albeit it takes a long time and it's not
perfect)>>

What do you mean by "today"? Are you talking about Acrobat 5.x, or are you
talking about Acrobat 6.x?

- Cynthia




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Golan Trevize" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: [PDFdev] PDF files optimized for RIPping


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> Just for clarification NexPress is not the only VDX consumer.
>
> For me Optimized PDF means that for any recurring element only on COS
object
> is created.
>
> Variable Formats such as VPS can be easily converted to Optimized PDF or
> VDX.
>
> Today the PDF2PS in Acrobat can export these COS objects (XObjects) as
> PSForms into the PS stream (albeit it takes a long time and it's not
> perfect), older versions of Acrobat sent multiple copies of the same
object.
>
> For RIP performance I guess it will depend on how it uses XObjects,
earlier
> Adobe RIP's behaved just like the early Acrobat versions.
>
> Golan Trevize
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cynthia Leslie
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:06 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [PDFdev] PDF files optimized for RIPping
> >
> > The term "optimized PDF file" has been bandied about for a couple of
years
> > in connection with printer/RIP performance. When people use this term in
> > the context that I am focusing on here, they are referring to a PDF file
> > that is constructed such that information that is common to all the
pages
> > is stored only once and referenced as needed. These kinds of PDF files
are
> > typically talked about in connection with variable-data-
> > printing/publishing applications, which usually output a PDF file that
> > contains a collection of documents that are similar but not identical.
> >
> > The idea is that if such a PDF file is sent to a printer/RIP that is
> > designed to take advantage of the optimization, documents will print at
or
> > near rated print speed whereas they would print relatively slowly if the
> > PDF file was not optimized (i.e., if it contained a lot of redundant
> > information).
> >
> > One such optimizated PDF format is the PPML/VDX format, but I am NOT
> > talking about that format, because (as far as I know) the only PPML/VDX-
> > consuming device available today is the NexPress -- and I'm interested
in
> > an optimized PDF format that is designed for many RIPS/printers --
> > ideally, B&W devices and well as color devices.
> >
> > Note also that I am NOT talking about the linearized PDF format, which
is
> > optimized for Web viewing and is documented in Adobe's PDF Reference.
> >
> > What I am talking about is some other PDF format or formats that are
> > generated by various software applications, typically variable-data-
> > printing/publishing applications.
> >
> > My first question is this: when people talk about an optimized PDF file
in
> > this context, are they referring to a particular format that is
documented
> > somewhere? I have not been able to find any standard or specification
for
> > this.
> >
> > Also: I know that the kind of optimized PDF files that I'm talking about
> > will only print at or near rated print speed on certain printers/RIPS
that
> > are designed to take advantage of such optimization. So my next question
> > is: what printers/RIP are designed to take advantage of this kind of PDF
> > optimization? Or, is it a matter of proprietary formats -- i.e., does an
> > application have to generate a particular type of optimized PDF format
for
> > one printer/RIP, a different kind of optimized PDF format for another
> > printer/RIP, etc.?
> >
> > BTW, I realize, of course, that there are lots of non-PDF print-stream
> > formats that are designed to make certain printers/RIPS print as fast as
> > possible (e.g., VPS, VIPP, FreeForm, etc.) -- but we have reasons for
> > wanting to stick with a pure PDF workflow for a particular application
> > that we are working on.
> >
> > Any and all replies and comments are welcome!
> >
> > - Cynthia Leslie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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