Geez I just re-read my post. Guess I should'a run the
spell check.
--- Treena Harp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree. Many point-n-shoots cost as much as an SLR
> or more. Even though I
> darned couldn't figure out the wierd array of
> buttons on the last one I
> picked up, for some reason people believe the
> point-n-shoots must be tons
> easier to use than an SLR.
>
> There are more people capable of quality photography
> than will ever realize
> it. Many of the people I work with (writers and
> editors) think photography
> is a necessary evil; it's just something they're
> forced to do along with
> putting together a story. However, one young guy I
> trained has decided that
> it's exciting to go to an event and take pictures,
> and even more exciting
> when he gets to see them in print with his story.
> I'm encouraging him a LOT.
> We also have a teacher in our little town who
> handles the school yearbook.
> She takes awful, blurry pics with a crappy little
> Rebel and won't let the
> kids take any. My husband and I have a goal of
> starting a photography club
> at the high school to encourage the kids who are
> interested in photography,
> even if they don't have a fancy camera. We figure
> the kids will enjoy it,
> and if there's a club dedicated to excellence in
> photography, it'll snowball
> on her and be really hard for her to keep the
> yearbook staff from taking
> pictures -- it can only improve the quality. :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:48 AM
> Subject: Re: OT: Wake up (Trying to return to on
> topic)
>
>
> >
> > Actualy Shel I contributed this comment.
> >
> > >
> > > > Most Americans seem to have lost the feel for
> > > quality, p&s
> > > > cameras fit their needs. That's why film
> > > processors
> > > > generally produce mediocre results at best,
> and
> > > often
> > > > produce results that are rivaled by low
> resolution
> > > > digital cameras. Most American consumers
> don't
> > > know
> > > > better and don't care. Often they don't
> realize
> > > they
> > > > can do better.
> > >
> > --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > > That said, did that many people care about
> quality
> > > before,
> > > apart from serious amateur and professional
> > > photographers, or
> > > were they just looking for snapshot quality pics
> of
> > > family,
> > > friends, and places they'd visited? And look at
> how
> > > many
> > > people on this list are buying and using
> mediocre
> > > quality
> > > lenses and getting average quality printing done
> at
> > > average
> > > quality labs. How many times have we read the
> word
> > > "acceptable" on this list to describe the
> results or
> > > the
> > > quality obtained by various lenses or printing.
> Far
> > > more than
> > > we've read the words "outstanding" or
> "exceptional".
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > I think most of the people on the list are using
> these
> > services because they are what are available. (I
> > often do as most of my photographic work to what I
> > would consider experemental, I don't make my
> living as
> > a photographer anymore, although I have tried to
> in
> > the past).
> >
> > Not to long ago in historical time Camera companys
> > were stressing, quality both in equipment and
> results.
> > The result was an explosion of 'High quality'
> cameras
> > and lenses, at what were then, considered consumer
> > prices, we are still reaping the benifits of that
> > explosion in the used camera market where you can
> > often pick up a like new example of some of the
> best
> > manual focus, lenses and cameras that Pentax,
> Olympus,
> > Minolta, Nikon, and Cannon (yes, I will commit the
> > herrisy of actualy mentioning the compition's
> names),
> > ever manufactured at prices that even given the
> > premium we pay for some of them, the prices are
> much
> > less than they are worth when inflation,
> manufacturing
> > cost, and yes results of proper use, are taken
> into
> > account. (The dollar isn't what used to be, nor
> the
> > yen the pound or the various '*mark(s)' etc).
> >
> > The problem is that having a great camera doesn't
> make
> > you a great photographer. Learning the basics of
> > compostion isn't difficult but appling them can be
> > well a bitch, (I know, I produce a lot of crap).
> Add
> > in the added complications of depth of field and
> > shutter speed effects and well you begin to get a
> > level of disenchantment.
> > The average consumer in the US probably hasn't
> had
> > any training in composition after a rudementy Art
> > class, which they were probably sleeping through
> in
> > school. They get back their results expecting
> Ansel
> > Adams or Helmut Neuton, (after all they just spent
> > many hundreds of dollars so their results have to
> be
> > good) and they get dreck. Why spend the money on
> > equipment when you're results are equaled by a
> P&S.
> > They expect quality but don't believe they are
> capable
> > of it. It's the equivelent of Say's law, (bad
> money
> > drives out the good). In this case bad
> photography
> > and equipment drives out the good. If your
> pictures
> > look bad when you use an expensive, and
> complicated,
> > camera and send them to an expensive lab for
> > processing then buy an inexpensive simple to use
> > camera and use the minilab at X-mart, it will all
> > look the same. Most don't even get the results
> that
> > their p&s is capable of. At best they get an
> > inaccurate record.
> >
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