Just got to second Pål on this, as I have discussed the D1 with Bjørn Rørslett in 
person.
I've also got the book Pål speaks about, and I have had the same thoughts about 
Bjørn's images as Pål mention here.

Just for the record....  :-)

Jostein

======= At 2003-01-17, 13:08:00 you wrote: =======

>Mike wrote:
>
>> Second, I'll provisionally believe someone who's actually made firsthand
>> comparisons with THEIR own eyes, like Michael R. and Ryan.
>
>But Michael isn't doing that. He claim to be performing empirical test proving that 
>digital is better than film in every respect (his own words) but this isn't true at 
>all. He is not providing any such tests and the "empirical" data these persons claims 
>are nowhere to be  found. Michael R is really saying that he is getting better prints 
>from digital than from film, and nobody is protesting about this, while he claims 
>that digital is "better" than film, something thats a completely different issue.
> 
>Then theres the question of hyping something the very same person is prone to. 
>Another guy, Bjørn Rørslett, was one of the early proponents of  the original Nikon 
>D1. Not surprisingly he also claimed that it was better than 35mm film and 
>approaching medium format. He also provided "empirical tests" and even put them up on 
>a web page. Funnily enough, the Norwegian association of nature photographer released 
>a book last year with the members best works. Bjørn Rørslett was the only 
>photographer with digital images in this book shot with the D1. The images are easy 
>to spot. They are significantly worse than anything else in the book in terms of 
>image quality, even if they aren't reproduced large. They are less sharp, less 
>saturated, less detailed than any other images in the book and it's easy to even see 
>that they are digital. Hence, we've heard all this before and until someone actually 
>compare film with digital, as oposed to comparing scanner quality with digital camera 
>quali!
>ty judged from a copy from both, I continue being sceptical if not downright 
>rejective to all these claims.
>
>Pål

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Best regards.                            
Jostein
http://oksne.net
2003-01-17



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