You're right of course, but I find the limits of light values within which
you can get a decent picture rather an obstruction than a blessing. Funny I
do not experience this with my choral conducting, although the limits of
waht a choir can do are sometimes enormous, considering the level of singing
some choirs have (or not). But within those limits I do no find that a
problem. You can sing when and whenever you want. Try that with a camera!

:-)

Paul Delcour

> From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:47:00 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:47:22 -0400
> 
> I don't think this is negative, I think it's the just the extreme
> expression of the aesthetic aspect of photography.  Like most art forms,
> there is a technique side that puts constraints on pure aesthetics, and
> the resulting combination is art.  One of the good parts about
> photography is that if you have the aesthetic sense (the"eye") then you
> can probably learn enough technique or get an automatic enough camera to
> not limit yourself too much.  This is not true in many arts (like
> painting) which is why I believe photography is such a popular hobby.
> Certainly, this is true in my case, although I think my enjoyment of the
> technical aspects is important to me and my "eye" is probably my
> limitation ;-)
> 
> 
> Steven Desjardins
> Department of Chemistry
> Washington and Lee University
> Lexington, VA 24450
> (540) 458-8873
> FAX: (540) 458-8878
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/03 05:50AM >>>
> Thanks Kenneth for your explanation.
> 
> I may sound amateurish, but I'm the one who just sees a shot and takes
> it. I
> hate having to do a lot afterwards, be it in a darkroom or in a
> digital
> room. That's why I took to slides a certain period, they just gave me
> what I
> saw. Looking back I can all my mistakes all too clearly as well. What
> I
> certainly do not like about photgraphy is the amount of technique I
> need to
> get a picture rigt. I feel the technique is more a burden than a
> blessing.
> As a choir conductor I do not sense any limits like this. As a pianist
> I did
> however. My arms and fingers didn't want to do what I did. The piano
> was in
> my way, as are a lot of photographical technical aspects. The absurd
> limits
> of a film for instance. I hope that digital solves this all in due
> course.
> 
> This sounds more negative than it really is, but as I'm picking up my
> photography now I do encounter the very same things that made me stop
> twcie
> before. So, I'm not a natural photographer I guess.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Paul Delcour
> 
>> From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:00:44 -0400
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer
>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:00:47 -0400
>> 
>> Paul, this image was submitted digitally to Outdoor Photographer. I
> used
>> Photoshop to set white and dark points, clean dust spots with the
> clone
>> stamp, apply a little unsharp mask, a slight crop and then size the
> image.
>> The Image as printed pretty much agrees with the original slide. It
> is as
>> straight forward as I can make it.
>> This is pretty much the way I handle all my images that I either post
> or
>> print.
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Delcour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer
>> 
>> 
>>> Kenneth,
>>> 
>>> really wonderful picture. I wander what you did do in Photshop as
> you say
>>> the image wasn't manipulated or anything. How straightforward a
> shoot was
>>> this?
>>> 
>>> :-)
>>> 
>>> Paul Delcour
>>> 
>>>> From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 06:50:57 +0200
>>>> To: Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer
>>>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 02:50:11 -0400
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> Here's the correct URL:
>>>> http://pug.komkon.org/01jul/IceFlwer.html
>>>> 
>>>> Congratulations.
>>>> 
>>>> Boris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ===8<==============Original message text===============
>>>> KW> Well, after being advised a year ago that an image of mine was
>> selected
>>>> for
>>>> KW> publication in Outdoor Photographer, "Your Gallery" section,
> it
>> finally
>>>> KW> appeared in the October 2003 issue. Check out pages 80/81 of
> that
>> issue -
>>>> KW> the "Your Gallery" section. I've posted this previously to the
> PUG
>>>> KW> (http://pug.komkon.org/01jul/IceFlwr.html).
>>>> KW> I also sent them a paragraph about the capture of this image
> but
>> they
>>>> chose
>>>> KW> to write their own.
>>>> KW> They did to use this image previously as a background for an
> story
>> on
>>>> KW> "Keeping Cool",
>>>> KW> in the June 2003 issue of Outdoor Photographer.
>>>> 
>>>> KW> Kenneth Waller
>>>> 
>>>> ===8<===========End of original message text===========
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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