--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Content-Type: text/plain > > pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 03 : Issue 1535 > > Today's Topics: > RE: where are you ? and digital vs f [ "David Madsen" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: How many musicians? was Re: wher [ Keith Whaley > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > RE: where are you ? and digital vs f [ "David Madsen" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > RE: Speculation, Rumor, and Innuendo [ "Michael Perham" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > A turning point? [ "Malcolm Smith" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Speculation, Rumor, and Innuendo [ "Bill Owens" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: A turning point? [ "Bill Owens" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Silly Digital Survey [ Otis Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: first digital image scare or whe [ "Christian Skofteland" > <c_skoftelan ] > Re: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited [ Joseph Tainter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: A turning point? [ "Bill Owens" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: where are you ? and digital vs f [ Bob Walkden > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Vs: Panorama project [ "Raimo Korhonen" > <raimo.m.korhonen@ ] > Vs: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited [ "Raimo Korhonen" > <raimo.m.korhonen@ ] > Re: Musings on a northern trip - Par [ "Christian Skofteland" > <c_skoftelan ] > Re: Advice re home studio [ Stan Halpin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited [ "Steve Larson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Silly Digital Survey [ "Kenneth Waller" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: How many musicians? was Re: wher [ "Kenneth Waller" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: An observation re Pentax for sal [ Stan Halpin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > RE: A turning point? [ "Malcolm Smith" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > RE: A turning point? [ "Malcolm Smith" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: K24/3.5 hood revisited [ Kostas Kavoussanakis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:33:26 -0700 > From: "David Madsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: where are you ? and digital vs film > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > OS stands for Operating System. OS9 & OSX are Mac operating systems, so > programs for these systems will not work on a Windows operating system. > This means that HourWorld is only available for Mac users, according to > hourworld.com anyway. Too bad, it looks like a useful program, but I > don't > have a Mac. > > David Madsen > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.davidmadsen.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 7:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: where are you ? and digital vs film > > > Cotty wrote: > > > > > > Actually I have this nifty little desk top app that shows me where it is > > night and where it is day across the world, so I know which good little > > boys and girls are in bed, and which bad ones are still up at 4 am here! > > You know who you are !! > > > > www.hourworld.com > > Which version of Windows is OS? > > *-) (still drunk from meeting with Russian hooligan last night....) > > m > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:31:25 -0800 > From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How many musicians? was Re: where are you ? and digital vs > film > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Very good! > Frankly, I wouldn't have expected anyone whose folks named him Cameron > to play the ocarina! <g> On the other hand, the mental images of "jazz > ocarina" are somehow appealing! <smile> > > You may have known of Tommy Newsome, who was with the Johnny Carson band. > One night many years ago I caught him at a Malibu jazz club, and found > he played classical flute! > Primarily known as a tenor sax man, he was very good on the flute. > When he played Bach it brought tears to your eyes. . . > > Thanks for the entry on the Pentax-using Musicians List! <g> > Your training and experience is suitably impressive! > > keith whaley > > Cameron Hood wrote: > > > > On Nov 29, 2003, at 7:40 AM, Bill Owens ejaculated exitedly: > > > > > How many musicians? was Re: where are you ? and digital vs film > > > I am a classical flutist, have 2 degrees in music, and have attended > > masterclasses with Sir James Galway, Jean-Pierre Rampal, William > > Bennett, Louis Moyse, and many others. I also play electric bass for > > about 35 years now, have a 1200 watt stereo bass of doom system with > > Lexicon digital multi-effects, and currently own 7 electric basses. I > > play mostly six string fretted and fretless these days. I have also > > played piano since I was six. > > > > Cameron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:41:34 -0700 > From: "David Madsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: where are you ? and digital vs film > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > OK, I think I too may be a bit tired or something as I just realized, > after > re-reading the question, that you were making a joke. Now I feel stupid - > good thing I am used to that feeling. ;-) > > David Madsen > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.davidmadsen.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Madsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: where are you ? and digital vs film > > > OS stands for Operating System. OS9 & OSX are Mac operating systems, so > programs for these systems will not work on a Windows operating system. > This means that HourWorld is only available for Mac users, according to > hourworld.com anyway. Too bad, it looks like a useful program, but I > don't > have a Mac. > > David Madsen > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.davidmadsen.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 7:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: where are you ? and digital vs film > > > Cotty wrote: > > > > > > Actually I have this nifty little desk top app that shows me where it is > > night and where it is day across the world, so I know which good little > > boys and girls are in bed, and which bad ones are still up at 4 am here! > > You know who you are !! > > > > www.hourworld.com > > Which version of Windows is OS? > > *-) (still drunk from meeting with Russian hooligan last night....) > > m > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:49:46 -0800 > From: "Michael Perham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Speculation, Rumor, and Innuendo > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: November 21, 2003 7:00 PM > . > I had a chance to play with the AF 360FGZ on the *ist D. The double > flashes for P-TTL come in such quick succession that I doubt anyone > would have time to blink between them. > > Unfortunately, this is not the case, or perhaps I should be saying this is > the case. You will find anyone with a propensity to blink, will do so on > the pre-flash and the exposure will catch them with their eyes closed. > > Cheers, Mike. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:50:01 -0000 > From: "Malcolm Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: A turning point? > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Last Tuesday, I received a surprise parcel, which my wife had arranged for > delivery. Inside, I found a number of smaller boxes, all new Pentax items > and one of them contained an *ist D. In all the time I have been > interested > in photography (1970), I've never bought/had a new SLR camera and have > only > seen them on the shelves. > > Friday just gone, I had an immediate use for a DSLR, to take photos of my > youngest in a school 'play' (she's 5 next week, so it was only a small > part), but I used the MX and Chinon flash for two reasons; firstly I can > use > the MX to provide good results without thinking and I'd not used the *ist > D > before and two; - and I freely admit this is a bit sad - is I am so > stunned > to have something new I wanted to view it in the box for a bit. > > Now will it be a turning point? So many hardened film users have turned to > digital so quickly with the acquisition of such a camera. I used my LX and > my 67 today.....I still get great pleasure every time I use them. > > Malcolm > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:52:51 -0500 > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Speculation, Rumor, and Innuendo > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Seems odd then that I've never had a problem with closed eyes with either > the MZ-S or *ist D. > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Perham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 11:49 AM > Subject: RE: Speculation, Rumor, and Innuendo > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: November 21, 2003 7:00 PM > > . > > > > I had a chance to play with the AF 360FGZ on the *ist D. The double > > flashes for P-TTL come in such quick succession that I doubt anyone > > would have time to blink between them. > > > > Unfortunately, this is not the case, or perhaps I should be saying this > is > > the case. You will find anyone with a propensity to blink, will do so > on > > the pre-flash and the exposure will catch them with their eyes closed. > > > > Cheers, Mike. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:58:43 -0500 > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: A turning point? > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Friday just gone, I had an immediate use for a DSLR, to take photos of > my > > youngest in a school 'play' (she's 5 next week, so it was only a small > > part), but I used the MX and Chinon flash for two reasons; firstly I can > use > > the MX to provide good results without thinking and I'd not used the > *ist > D > > before and two; - and I freely admit this is a bit sad - is I am so > stunned > > to have something new I wanted to view it in the box for a bit. > > This is an ideal setting for the *ist D, especially if you can get on the > stage before the performance. Take a white sheet of paper (the whiter the > better) on the stage and manually set the white balance for that lighting. > Then, when you return to the audience, set the ISO to whatever will give > you > a decent shutter speed for the conditions. 1600 and 3200 may be noisy, > but > still a decent image. The noise can be cleaned up with some 3rd party > programs if it's really objectionable, but I find it no worse than film > grain. > > Bill > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:02:16 -0500 > From: Otis Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Silly Digital Survey > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Somewhere around 3. > > Use digital prosumer P&S for 95 % of pics. Use film for wide angle, > back up, special set ups, long shots, and to provide family with an odd > set of prints now and then. > > Impact of going digital so far. Killed move to K mount. Howver, did > purchased several additional SMCT lenses, another Spotmatic F, and > another ESII to secure the screwmount base. Don't see further > investment in for now. > > Near term will add following digital equipment: a small (physica size) > P&S and a DSLR. P&S as soon as I can locate and checkout. DSLR when > have time to to the research to get comfortable with a configuraton of > equipment that will meet my needs in the area of flash synch, low light > AF, and wide angle. > > Otis Wright > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >With fond memories of surveys past <g>: > > > > > >1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved > >completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your > >equipment cabinet)? > > > >2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually > >selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't > >count in this survey. > > > >3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera > >around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not > >used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera? > > > >4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there. > > > >shel > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:09:41 -0500 > From: "Christian Skofteland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: first digital image scare or where are my pictures? > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > What was the freeware and where can it be found? I'd like to add it to > > my page of digital photo software links. > > > > This is the freeware that recovered all my images. It's called "Zero > Assumption Digital Image Recovery" I wouldn't be surprised if it's full > of > data mining software and viruses. I'm always hesitant to download free > software but in this case I was a bit desperate and in the end it worked. > > http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Disk_Maintenance_and_Repair_Utilities/Zero_Assumption_Digital_Image_Recovery_Download.html > > http://www.z-a-recovery.com/digital_image_recovery.htm is their home-page > for the full pay-version. > > Christian > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:14:34 -0700 > From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pdml <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Popular Photography rated it one of the three best prime lenses they had > ever tested. > > I use mine a lot and am always impressed by the image quality. On the > *ist D it makes a wonderful "normal" lens. > > Joe > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:13:25 -0500 > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: A turning point? > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I had no intention of getting a DSLR until I had the opportunity to use a > pre-production model at last August's GFM Camera Clinic. I became so > enthusiastic about it that my wife wrote the check then and there, even > though we still had to wait nearly two months for delivery. Since then > the > 645 and P30t have been converted to cash to offset the cost, and the MZ-S > feels rejected just sitting in the bag. > > Bill > > > Now will it be a turning point? So many hardened film users have turned > to > > digital so quickly with the acquisition of such a camera. I used my LX > and > > my 67 today.....I still get great pleasure every time I use them. > > > > Malcolm > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:13:39 +0000 > From: Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: where are you ? and digital vs film > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi, > > Sunday, November 30, 2003, 1:50:05 PM, you wrote: > > > Actually I have this nifty little desk top app that shows me where it is > > night and where it is day across the world, so I know which good little > > boys and girls are in bed, and which bad ones are still up at 4 am here! > > You know who you are !! > > > www.hourworld.com > > I've got a page in my Filofax that does that. <g> > > Cheers, > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:04:58 +0200 > From: "Raimo Korhonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Vs: Panorama project > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Nah, this is not nice, it´s great. I just got back from St. Petersburg and > this is better than the city itself ;-) > Do you all use Macs because it is a bit dark on my screen? > All the best! > Raimo > Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho > > -----Alkuperäinen viesti----- > Lähettäjä: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Vastaanottaja: pentax list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Päivä: 30. marraskuuta 2003 15:41 > Aihe: Re: Panorama project > > > >On 29/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > > >>My humble attempt at the same (has very little to do with Pentax though) > >>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1942931&size=lg > > > >Also very nice Mishka. > > > > > > > > > >Cheers, > > Cotty > > > > > >___/\__ > >|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > >||=====| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > >_____________________________ > >Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:56:30 +0200 > From: "Raimo Korhonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Vs: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Yeah, a lot but not in the Leica territory. > All the best! > Raimo > Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho > > -----Alkuperäinen viesti----- > Lähettäjä: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Päivä: 30. marraskuuta 2003 16:31 > Aihe: Re: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Alan Chan" > >Subject: Re: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited > > > > > >> >How does the FA 31 mm f/1.8 AL Limited perform > >> > >> It is a pretty sharp lens corners to corners wide open, signfiicantly > >> sharper than the FA*24. One stop down it is super sharp. Although it is > >not > >> a fair comparsion, but it is the sharpest lens I have owned so far. > Quite > >> possible one of the sharpest Pentax 135 lenses too. > >> > >> >and is it worth buying at $860.00 US. > >> > >> Probably not when FA28/2.8 & FA35/2 are a lot cheaper, but heck, do you > >> really care when you just wanted one? :-) > > > >I just recently checked into the pricing of this lens. The local shop > wanted > >Can$1500.00 for it NIB. > >From that POV, US$860.00 is probably not out of line, though that is a > lot > >of money to pay for a lens for a 35mm camera. > > > >William Robb > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:22:03 -0500 > From: "Christian Skofteland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Musings on a northern trip - Part 2. > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cesar Matamoros II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The DCPDML was a joy. > > It's always a good bunch of people. > > > And of course we had Christian with his macro light set up, and the > > distinction of bringing the dogfish. My contribution was more mundane > being > > that I was in unfamiliar territory in the refreshment department. I was > > more at home photographically. > > I had to keep an eye on my Limited 31 with Christian around. I was able > to > > leave that night with all my lenses :-) > > It's the perfect "normal" lens for the ist-D. If only I had the cash.... > > > With all the enjoyment and comaraderie from this trip I definitely look > > forward to my next trip. Baltimore may probably see me in a couple of > weeks > > (consider it a notice to the DCPDML) and NY will probably see me on the > > jaunt in January. What is it with me and travelling in wintertime??? > > Looking forward to your next visit. > > > Lifting my Venetian glass of 2001 Australian Charlie's Petit Verdot to > the > > PDML, > > > > César > > That's a 2001 Western Australian Madfish Shiraz back at ya. > > Christian > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:23:27 -0600 > From: Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Advice re home studio > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > Hey Tanya fairy girl - welcome back! > > Lasse - I think all of the posters had good suggestions. Since I have the > advantage of having seen your space, I will add a couple of comments: > > a. Like the others, I wonder if the space is not too small. But it is a > start. Clean it out, paint the walls, hang a few brackets that you can > attach cloth or other backdrops to, and call it a Studio. Don't let it get > too cluttered with lights and different chairs etc. or you won't have room > to work. Keep it sparse and simple. > > b. Also, rearrange the living room so that you have a more open space at > the > end nearest the large window. Attach a couple of brackets to the ceiling. > When the space in the Studio is too small, move your clients out to the > temporary Studio you create with a couple of backdrops from the ceiling. > > c. When you are ready to start, have the witch come and bless the space > (vbg). > > c. Before you do (a) of (b), you will need to have a sale or otherwise > reduce the number of pieces of furniture, etc. Otherwise it will be too > crowded. > > stan > > on 10/02/03 6:26 PM, Tanya Mayer - Photographic Artist at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Lasse, I have done this MANY a time, ... > > > > tan.x. (aka "fairy") > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 8:55 AM > > Subject: Advice re home studio > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> I've got this spare room around 4 x 2.7 meters (ca 13 x 9 feet) (yes > > Stan - in case you're reading, the one you used for a guest room) and I > was > > thinking of trying to use it for some sort of a portrait studio (or > maybe > > for shooting smaller products, in case there will be a demand for it). > ... > >> > >> Lasse > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:27:13 -0800 > From: "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi Joe, > That is impressive, top three. What were the other two? > I think I know. > Steve Larson > Redondo Beach, California > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited > > > > Popular Photography rated it one of the three best prime lenses they had > > > ever tested. > > > > I use mine a lot and am always impressed by the image quality. On the > > *ist D it makes a wonderful "normal" lens. > > > > Joe > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:33:46 -0500 > From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Silly Digital Survey > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > 1) Not yet. > 2) Not yet > 3) In a very small way - just picked up an Optio S. Still have all the > 35mm > SLR Pentax cameras/lenses I've ever used - Spotmatic, MX, ESII, SF1, PZ1, > PZ1P & MZ-S, 17-28mm through 600mm. > > Answer to un asked question "What would get you to switch?" -- A 12 MP > Pentax Digital slr for under $1500. > > Kenneth Waller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Silly Digital Survey > > > 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved > > completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your > > equipment cabinet)? > > > > 2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually > > selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't > > count in this survey. > > > > 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera > > around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not > > used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera? > > > > 4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there. > > > > shel > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:36:43 -0500 > From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: How many musicians? was Re: where are you ? and digital vs > film > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I play mostly a Sony radio, occasionally Kenwood CD player. > > Kenneth Waller > ----- Original Message ----- > > Subject: Re: How many musicians? was Re: where are you ? and digital vs > film > > > This brings a question to my feeble mind. How many musicians do we have > here on the list? I know there are a few guitarists, and, if I'm not > mistaken, a conductor. I play trombone in our local community concert > band, > and have been a member there for 11 years. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:42:03 -0600 > From: Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: An observation re Pentax for sale > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > Shel - I am joining the discussion late as I am just back from a 4-day > holiday trip down to Eureka Springs. I shot about 500 images with my > ist-D. > Meg added 8-10 with the Optio. If that were slide film, I would have "paid > for" one of my two 512mB cards. In the month or so I have had the ist-D, I > have about paid for both cards in saved film purchase and processing. Over > the next few days I will "give some of that back" as I select the two or > three handfuls I will have printed to take with me to the family Christmas > gathering. I have no doubt that in the long run I will come out ahead > ussing > digital rather than film. > > stan > > on 11/27/03 2:48 PM, Shel Belinkoff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > How much film could you buy for the cost of a given memory card? IOW, > at what > > point does the card start paying for itself? And how many cards do > people > > have? > > > > Bruce Dayton wrote: > > > >> Hope this is making sense. In a nutshell, the ability to shoot > >> without the concern of cost. Another example - My wife is quite > >> cognizant of the cost per frame on her 35mm camera. I believe it to > >> be about .50 each (film/develop/print). So she would mentally count > >> the cost as she shot. Opting many times not to take/try a shot > >> because she didn't want to pay for it. Now with her little Optio S, > >> she will go out and freely shoot whatever takes her fancy. She may > >> shoot about 90 frames of which later she wants 5-10 printed. Others > >> she may not print but still want to keep, just in case. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:47:50 -0000 > From: "Malcolm Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: A turning point? > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Bill Owens wrote: > > > > Friday just gone, I had an immediate use for a DSLR, to > > take photos of > > > my youngest in a school 'play' (she's 5 next week, so it was only a > > > small part), but I used the MX and Chinon flash for two reasons; > > > firstly I can > > use > > > the MX to provide good results without thinking and I'd not > > used the > > > *ist > > D > > > before and two; - and I freely admit this is a bit sad - is I am so > > stunned > > > to have something new I wanted to view it in the box for a bit. > > > > This is an ideal setting for the *ist D, especially if you > > can get on the stage before the performance. Take a white > > sheet of paper (the whiter the > > better) on the stage and manually set the white balance for > > that lighting. > > Then, when you return to the audience, set the ISO to > > whatever will give you a decent shutter speed for the > > conditions. 1600 and 3200 may be noisy, but still a decent > > image. The noise can be cleaned up with some 3rd party > > programs if it's really objectionable, but I find it no worse > > than film grain. > > Thanks Bill, > > As I have the Christmas concerts coming up for all three children (!), I > will have ample opportunity to try this out. Many of our relations would > like the images sent by e-mail. > > As I'm bloody minded, I'll still take pictures with the LX/MX and send > prints..... > > Malcolm > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:47:43 -0000 > From: "Malcolm Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: A turning point? > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Bill Owens wrote: > > > I had no intention of getting a DSLR until I had the > > opportunity to use a pre-production model at last August's > > GFM Camera Clinic. I became so enthusiastic about it that my > > wife wrote the check then and there, even though we still had > > to wait nearly two months for delivery. Since then the > > 645 and P30t have been converted to cash to offset the cost, > > and the MZ-S feels rejected just sitting in the bag. > > Well, this makes me feel good about the *ist D. > > I can't imagine selling photographic equipment (I have sold many other > things though!). My wife loves the MXs and wishes to learn about the *ist > D. > Which is nice :-) > > Malcolm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:48:12 +0000 (GMT) > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: K24/3.5 hood revisited > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Andre Langevin wrote: > > > You could also make your own tylip hood with the Pentax 58mm round > > plastic hood (for the K 85-210mm 200/4 & 135/2.5) and an exakto. > > This plastic is easy to cut. > > Thanks for this Andre, but the Takumar hood was there for the taking > and I presume from George's reply that it's the same as the K24. I am > sure I would make a mess of the cutting job. Looking forward to > receiving it, though the 24 does not get any use in the winter; I lack > the confidence to take a camera out in the cold. > > Looks like I won't bother you about it again! > > Kostas > > -------------------------------- > End of pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 Issue #1535 > **********************************************
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