the digital medium is capable of being more than film can ever be. Grain Surgery can match any grain you can scan and invent some you can't. other tools can take care of the color matching problem. once you reach adequate resolution, and there is a full frame 4x5 digital back out there that produce 48 megapixel images, with higher than film dynamic range, 10 stops in one exposure with the same 4x5 back, you have exceeded the capabilities of film. can you do it at the same cost as film? of course not, until you have made thousands of exposures. the idea of making digital look like film is ridiculous to me because why would i want myself to be limited to only what film can do.
Herb.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 4:05 PM Subject: Re: What do you think? > Well, Herb, we're coming at this from entirely different perspectives ... I > don't want to edit digital stuff through photoshop to give me something similar > to what I get from film. And, frankly, it's hard for me to believe that Grain > Surgery will provide the wide variety of grain patterns and texture available > with different films, different exposures, different developers, and different > developing and processing techniques. Are you suggesting that Grain Surgery > will give me the grain of Efke 25 processed in ID-II, or Tri-X pushed two stops > and processed in Acufine, or HP5+ in Rodinal 1:50? The idea of making a digital > image imitate a film-based photograph just seems silly to me. > > As for color, well, I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the same situation > exists, because different films and exposures provide different degrees of > graininess. Will Grain Surgery deal with those difference? > > What seems to be happening is that the digital people want digital to be all > things to all people, so software is developed to get digitally captured images > to imitate to some degree that which film does. Frankly, I like the digital > image for what it is, and the silver-based photographic image for what it is.