Hello Shel,

Then there is all those times when the wedding is at noon and pictures
are right before or after.  Some of them can use fill flash - even in
the shade - to put a tiny catchlight in the eyes or to soften a harsh
shadow.  Of course, receptions tend to be quite dim.  There are shots
there that are required to take and without supplemntal (flash)
lighting, there would be some very unhappy clients.

I agree that whenever possible, don't use flash and don't over do it,
but I have need for flash.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce



Friday, January 23, 2004, 6:42:20 PM, you wrote:

SB> Well, Bill, I suppose one can argue that it's OK to do that, but I'd
SB> disagree in principle, especially with B&W work.  If y'gotta use flash,
SB> then the light's not right for the subject.  Move the subject, move the
SB> camera, think of a different composition.  This is for human subjects, of
SB> course.  And there are definitely situations where fill flash will destroy
SB> a mood ...  There's certain times of the day when the light enhances the
SB> act and the art of photography, and there are times of the day that you
SB> should take your camera inside, make notes on what you shot earlier, have a
SB> cool drink, change your film, have a cool drink, brush the morning dust off
SB> your lenses, have a cool drink, and then head out in the late afternoon and
SB> continue making photographs.

SB> Now, with conventional B&W there's another way ... overexpose a stop or
SB> more and then cut back on the development time.  That'll even out the
SB> contrast, have the photos looking more natural, and keep your subjects more
SB> relaxed.  Whoops!  Hardly anyone does any of that these days. So much
SB> easier with color neg film, a flash, and a quick trip to the one hour lab.
SB> No more cool drinks during mid day ... that's the biggest loss <LOL>

SB> I'm a bit of an odd duck here ... never used a flash, don't own a flash,
SB> can't see any reason to do so.  The only flash here is the one built into
SB> my digicam ...

SB> shel

SB> Bill Owens wrote:

>> > How true. When you don't have to think about exposure, you stop
>> > thinking about light. When you stop thinking about light, you produce
>> > crap. I didn't look at the photos in question, so I can't comment on
>> > that. But I agree that an on camera flash is almost never the right
>> > solution.
>>
>> Maybe sometimes as fill flash in bright sun outdoors?
>>
>> Bill



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