Now that starts to make more sense. Not what you said originally though. Why
not be honest and just admit you got it wrong first time round?

Antonio


On 8/8/04 5:20 am, "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OK, Keith, I apologize for misunderstanding.
> 
> What both Bill Robb and I were saying is that if you take a photo from the
> same 
> position with both the 24mm and the 100mm it will have the same perspective.
> Then if you blow up the photo from the 24mm so the subject is the same size in
> it as in the one from the 100mm and crop it so both are say 4x6 inch prints
> the 
> images will be the same except the grain in the 24mm shot will be far more
> obvious. (Obviously that is not cropping in camera)
> 
> I also said for the DOF to be exactly the same in those 4x6's you need to use
> the same aperture (f-stop is focal-length/aperture, so focal-length/f-stop is
> aperture). For instance f/2.0 with the 24mm is approximately a 1/2 inch
> aperture, so is f/8.0 with the 100mm.
> 
> ONLY that is WRONG (muddy thinking on my part), because of the blowup of the
> 24mm shot, you have to factor the extra magnification into the equation. In
> this 
> case it is 4x (100/24). Because of that magnification factor you would need
> the 
> same f-stop. (DOF is determined by aperture and magnification)
> 
> To recap, if you take the photos from the same position, with the same f-stop,
> and enlarge, and crop the photo taken with the shorter lens. The photos will
> be 
> identical except for the problems caused by the higher magnification
> enlargement.
> 
> However, if you took the photo with the 24mm from a distance where the subject
> appeared the same size as in the 100mm shot , say 5 feet and 20 feet (no extra
> magnification, or cropping) the apertures, not f-stops, would need to be the
> same for the same DOF. But then they would have different perspectives (as you
> said).
> 
> Obviously, in this case you probably would not want to use a 24 in place of
> the 
> 100. The quality cost would most likely be too high. But you might use your 50
> as the loss would only be a 1/2x. If you, like I do, carry 24, 50, and 100mm
> lenses then the extra blowup of the enlargements can easily take the place of
> 35, 85, and 135mm lenses. Giving you the equivalent of 6 lenses with the
> weight 
> and cost of only 3, as you still get to use about an APS size portion of the
> negative.

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