I recently had to replace my useable cell phone because a replacement battery couldn't be found. I mentioned "Planned Obsolescence" to the clerk. She just gave me that deer-in-the-headlight stare. She had never heard of P.O. A Pentax rep told me early this year that Pentax would never make a digital slr that would be fully compatible with early K/M lenses. It was upsettings to hear that news.
Jim a. > From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:59:22 -0400 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:59:20 -0400 > > NO, YOU DON'T GET IT. I never said pentax changed > their lens mounts, they changed their new camera > to ignore the K/M aperture cam and have LESS features then the lenses > can do. > Big difference. If something was gained for abandoning > these features it would be one thing but nothing was > gained, it's ALL LOSS. Pentax wants you to replace > perfectly good and capable lenses. That is called > PLANNED obsolescence, which is a very unethical business > practice. > JCO > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 6:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! > > > You still don't get it. Pentax didn't change their lens mount. K and M > lenses work just fine with the *istD. Nearly everyone on the list who > owns an *istD uses them on a regular basis. I think you should try it > before you form an opinion. The mechanical linkage is an unnecessary > addition that might well interfere with some other operation. Paul On > Sep 15, 2004, at 6:29 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> The other mfgrs CHANGED THEIR LENS MOUNTS for technical improvements. >> Pentax did not, they just abandoned the K mount support WITHOUT any >> technical reason for doing so. Big difference. >> JCO >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Steve Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:24 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! >> >> >> Dude, >> >> Not to vent, but what other camera manufacturer allows >> you to use 30+ year old lenses? That is the beauty of >> the Pentax system. If you want full compatibility, >> then buy new lenses, just like you would have to do >> with Nikon, Canon, etc. >> >> For me, I'm as happy as can be with the istD. You >> can't beat the market prices and picture quality of >> Pentax M&K lenses! >> >> >> --- "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> that is not a continous on the fly AE, that is more >>> like one shot AE with exposure lock only. >>> Not as good or as fast as a fully supported K >>> lens which can do on the fly metered manual and AE >>> both open aperture for approximately the last 30 >>> years. You say you want to move forward with digital >>> but this major operational feature removal is >>> acceptable? >>> >>> JCO >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:31 PM >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! >>> >>> >>> It does what amounts to aperture priority with a >>> simple push of the >>> green button. It will set the shutter speed >>> automatically, so you really >>> have only one motion to complete, pushing the >>> button. I don't understand >>> why some feel this is difficult. I do it in >>> situations with constantly >>> changing exposure and have never experienced a >>> problem or felt >>> inconvenienced. >>> >>> >>>> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! >>>> >>>> >>>> It now does open aperture metered manual and >>> Aperure Priority AE, -ON >>>> THE FLY- like every Pentax film camera always did? >>> JCO >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:59 PM >>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! >>>> >>>> >>>> I didn't know you were using an *istD, JCO. Mine >>> works fine with K and >>> >>>> M lenses. I use them nearly every day. >>>> >>>> >>>>> "as Good" ?? It sucks now, I don't see how it >>> could get any worse. >>>>> It should get better, not worse. Not fully >>> supporting the "K" mount >>>>> is a crock of shit IMHO. There are many fine K >>> and M lenses that are >>> >>>>> being crippled by pentax *istD for zero >>> technical reasons. But this >>>>> is old argument.... JCO >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Shel Belinkoff >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:37 PM >>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> While I understand that it's too early to make >>> final judgments, is >>>>> there anything to suggest that the support won't >>> be as good? >>>>> >>>>> Shel >>>>> >>>>>> From: Peter J. Alling >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>>> Only if the K/M support is at least as good as >>> the *ist-D has now. >>>>> >>>>>>> Hmmm .... just thinking out loud here ... >>> that M24~35 zoom in the >>>>> equipment >>>>>>> drawer should make a pretty nice "normal" >>> lens for the istDS. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? 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