Then the screaming here on the list and other places made them think it was worthwhile to do a workaround in software. Or, the software could have been planned from the beginning, but the screams to get the camera on the market caused them to release it before that was fully implemented.
We seem to be good at screaming here (grin).
--
Peter J. Alling wrote:
If Espon and Chinon(Yoightlander), built a classic K mount digital body based on their Leica digital with
the Bessaflex prism, (probably not as difficult as it might sound), I would bet Pentax would change their mind
fairly quickly.
Jim Apilado wrote:
I recently had to replace my useable cell phone because a replacement
battery couldn't be found. I mentioned "Planned Obsolescence" to the clerk.
She just gave me that deer-in-the-headlight stare. She had never heard of
P.O.
A Pentax rep told me early this year that Pentax would never make a digital
slr that would be fully compatible with early K/M lenses. It was upsettings
to hear that news.
Jim a.
From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:59:22 -0400 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:59:20 -0400
NO, YOU DON'T GET IT. I never said pentax changed their lens mounts, they changed their new camera to ignore the K/M aperture cam and have LESS features then the lenses can do. Big difference. If something was gained for abandoning these features it would be one thing but nothing was gained, it's ALL LOSS. Pentax wants you to replace perfectly good and capable lenses. That is called PLANNED obsolescence, which is a very unethical business practice. JCO
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera!
You still don't get it. Pentax didn't change their lens mount. K and M lenses work just fine with the *istD. Nearly everyone on the list who owns an *istD uses them on a regular basis. I think you should try it before you form an opinion. The mechanical linkage is an unnecessary addition that might well interfere with some other operation. Paul On Sep 15, 2004, at 6:29 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
The other mfgrs CHANGED THEIR LENS MOUNTS for technical improvements. Pentax did not, they just abandoned the K mount support WITHOUT any technical reason for doing so. Big difference. JCO
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!
Dude,
Not to vent, but what other camera manufacturer allows you to use 30+ year old lenses? That is the beauty of the Pentax system. If you want full compatibility, then buy new lenses, just like you would have to do with Nikon, Canon, etc.
For me, I'm as happy as can be with the istD. You can't beat the market prices and picture quality of Pentax M&K lenses!
--- "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
that is not a continous on the fly AE, that is more like one shot AE with exposure lock only. Not as good or as fast as a fully supported K lens which can do on the fly metered manual and AE both open aperture for approximately the last 30 years. You say you want to move forward with digital but this major operational feature removal is acceptable?
JCO
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!
It does what amounts to aperture priority with a simple push of the green button. It will set the shutter speed automatically, so you really have only one motion to complete, pushing the button. I don't understand why some feel this is difficult. I do it in situations with constantly changing exposure and have never experienced a problem or felt inconvenienced.
Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!
It now does open aperture metered manual and
Aperure Priority AE, -ON
THE FLY- like every Pentax film camera always did?
JCO
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!
I didn't know you were using an *istD, JCO. Mine
works fine with K and
M lenses. I use them nearly every day.
"as Good" ?? It sucks now, I don't see how it
could get any worse.
It should get better, not worse. Not fully
supporting the "K" mount
is a crock of shit IMHO. There are many fine K
and M lenses that are
being crippled by pentax *istD for zero
technical reasons. But this
is old argument.... JCO
-----Original Message-----
From: Shel Belinkoff
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera!
While I understand that it's too early to make
final judgments, is
there anything to suggest that the support won't
be as good?
Shel
From: Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Only if the K/M support is at least as good as
the *ist-D has now.
Hmmm .... just thinking out loud here ...
that M24~35 zoom in the
equipment
drawer should make a pretty nice "normal"
lens for the istDS.
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