My process is simple . I just put first two bottles
in a hot water filled sink for  a few minutes until
I get a reading of 85 F in the developer (step one).
I then drain sink, start 6.5 min. constant development. My room temp
is always around 72 F so everthing remains consistant.

After I reach 1/2 capacity of the used chemistry I change
my development time to 7.0 minutes, that's it.

One of the beauties of using 85 deg processing is that since
it is only about 12 degrees above room temperture, there
is much less drift in the process temp vs. time in an
untempered process. With 100 deg processing the drift
would be much more of a problem. Second nice thing 
that WR mentioned is the dev time is 6.5 minutes which
is much easier to time consistantly than 3:15 and less
error prone. It is as easy as black and white. yes you
have to prewarm the first two bottles to 85 deg F but
that is simple in a sink of hot water.

I see no point in not using at least my dirt cheap rotary system. I use
plastic
patterson film tank (35mm/120) and a beseler drum roller.
You can both on ebay for under $50 TOTAL. sure beats tedious
manual agitation. In order to use the tank on the roller,
(roller wasn’t designed for a tank) 
I have propped up the roller approx. 1" on one side so the
roller&tank is at an angle instead of horizontal. The high
side is for the top side of the tank obviously. 

The only "trick" is I built the intermittant agitation
timer myself which is a timed relay to turn motor on only
5 seconds out of every 30 seconds. But I think you could
do second step with constant agitation too with same results
so intermittant roller timer really isnt necessary...
I use intermittant agitation for fix with BW and Bleach-fix
with C41. I NEVER use intermittant agitation with any developer ( BW or
C41 ) 
process, constant agitation seems to be most consistant for this
critical step.

JCO


-----Original Message-----
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:23 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions...



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions...


> When you (or JCO) get a moment, can you provide a brief rundown on
> what's
> needed.  No rush ...

A rotary processor is nice, but if you can do bare bones processing, 
a stainless tank will do fine.
The standard C-41 process runs at 38ºC and has a development time of 
3:15, which is hot and short for a dump and refill process, so I 
would definitely look into one of the low temp long time chemistry 
sets. The Arista that JCO mentioned seems about ideal.
85ºF is well within the range of a low tech waterbath approach to 
chemical tempering, You could probably do it with a sink of warm 
water, and spike it with hot when the temp starts to fall off.
Development time and temp is pretty critical, but after that, it 
isn't so important. You can bleach/fix at just about any temp as long 
as you extend the times out to compensate, the same applies to the 
wash. Just don't pour cold into a warm tank, the film will 
reticulate.

William Robb 



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