Here is YOUR STATEMENT that my reply
below was in resonse to:

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WILLIAM ROBB WROTE:

The most important factor is lens usability for THE MAJORITY of users. For
most users, this means programmed exposure automation and autofocus, 
neither of which are supported, or supportable, by K/M lenses.

William Robb 
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As everyone can see you are contending that for most users PROGRAMMED
EXPOSURE AUTOMATION is one of the most important lens usability
factors, and at the same time you are saying full K/M support isnt
justified. But NO AE is possible at all with these crippled mount DSLRs with
K/M lenses so how can you say PROGRAMMED AE is a most important
lens usablity factor and then at the same time argue that
NO AE AT ALL with K/M lenses without any compatabiliy issues isnt
important loss of lens-camera function? Is that simple enough for 
you to see the GROSS contradiction??? And don't even think
about trying to argue that if you cant get PROGRAMMED AE
with a KM lens then there is no point in regular AE so it
can be tossed aside without any real loss of fucntion or "USABILITY"
 because the K/M lenses were all designed
for open aperture metering and open aperture AE functions for a reason,
it's a good feature for some situations where you need or want it.

JCO
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-----Original Message-----
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:31 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Camera engineering (This is signifigant)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: Camera engineering (This is signifigant)


>
> The lack of reason is in your last post, there
> is no imcompatability issue with KM lenses
> and Program AE and AF. they didn't have to
> remove KM support to maintain Program AE
> and AF. If they did then it might make sense
> but they didn't. And BTW, I think the statement
> is quite illogical because on one hand your saying
> program AE is important for most users but
> then you ALSO say the removal of ALL AE from
> KM lenses without the need to do so is right
> thing to do. YOU CANT ARGUE AE is and isnt important at the same time. 
> this is getting old because you made the same self-incriminating 
> argument before a while back and never learned from it when
> I pointed out its gross contradiction then. I told
> you that you would be a redundant arguer didn't
> I?

I just don't know which post you are replying to John. It wasn't the one you

quoted though.

William Robb 



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