dagt
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:02:50 -0800
>
>> fra: Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>in fact, religious intolerance has always been limited to
>>>western christians and islami
>>>
>>>which is exactly what we have right now.
>>>
>>>best,
>>>mishka
>>
>> And let's not forget the secular intolerance of the Left in defining
>> a religion as a tool
>> of the state (per Marx & Hegel) rather than allowing liberty. This is
>> followed by the
>> murder of those who disagree -- by Hitler, Stalin, Mao. Those who
>> oppose all religion
>> also have no morally superior position.
>
>Strange. I know a few people who have no religious belief, and who are
>positioned in very different places in the political scale, but as
far as I can
>see they are just as moral in their lives as any religious person. In fact
>some of them are better because they are opposed to any differentiating of
>people because of religion or politics, so all are treated equal.
>
>It shows that peoples really don\t need religion to behave well in
a society,
>and I tend to be skeptical toward those who only behave because
their god has
>told them so. What happens if the god tells them otherwise?
>
>DagT
How is this strange?
The point I was making had to do with the broader systems -- that the
appearance of
organized intolerance by the various groups is not limited to
religion but also to the
secular (religion-free) world. You were speaking of individuals, not
of a system.
We were talking about 2 different things.
A follow-up discussion would be to evaluate the various belief
systems to ferret out "truth".
Collin
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
-- Jim Elliott