Adam, I'll have to take a look at those. Here's what I've seen of FWD... '8? Toyota Tercel :-( '88 Olds Delta 88 :-( '93 Buick Park Ave. :-( '02 Olds Aurora :-( '04 Accura T6 :-( Not enough room for a sack lunch under the hood of any of them! Regards, Bob S.
On 7/24/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob, > > Go pop the hood on a Chrysler LH car (Intrepid, 300M, Vision or > Concorde) and tell me there's no room to work on a FWD car. It really > does depend on the car. > > I still will insist that CV Joints make a FWD car more expensive to > miantain if everything else is equal, but that's my experience with > AWD/4WD coming out (the front end is always the moneysink in AWD/4WD > setups, usually due to CV joint wear. Luckily not everything is as bad > as a Saab 99 or Chevy S10 4WD. > > -Adam > > > > Bob Sullivan wrote: > > Gonz, > > Thanks. Godfrey's "I know it all" attitude was beginning to get on my > > nerves. > > The bullshit detector was going off every time I read his commentary. > > I've pulled the transmissions on RWD cars and wouldn't even try a FWD. > > Things are way too cramped in a modern engine compartment with FWD. > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > On 7/24/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >>Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> > >>>On Jul 24, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Gonz wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>... that's really more a reflection of the quality of the > >>>>>design than the type. > >>>> > >>>>I'm sorry, but you're still not convincing me. I've changed > >>>>transmissions on both types of cars and there is a *world* of > >>>>difference. > >>> > >>> > >>>As I said, differences in difficulty reflect the quality/ > >>>serviceability of a particular design and are not indicative of a > >>>type distinction. I probably pulled, overhauled and reassembled at > >>>least 100 transaxle and separate component setups over the years > >>>since 1971 and today. > >>> > >> > >>IMO, the particular design doesnt matter. What matters is that the > >>basic assembly is the same. On a FWD, in order to move the split shaft > >>assembly out of the tranny case, you have to take the wheels off, loosen > >>and move to the side the brake assembly, loosen the suspension from the > >>wheel assembly, probably loosen and/or remove the major suspension frame > >>member closest to the tranny (because that member usually holds the > >>tranny mount and the tranny usually has to come downwards to get out), > >>loosen the shaft support on the long side of the shaft, take the short > >>shaft off the tranny and the wheel assembly, and finally pull off the > >>long shaft. Now, you've just gotten started. You next have to support > >>the engine, take one or more engine mounts off (this is usually because > >>there is not enough space to pull the tranny off the engine in its > >>normal position and you will have to drop the engine/tranny assembly > >>downwards), take a huge part of the junk above the tranny and engine > >>(air intake assembly, battery, etc, 90% of the time, this is just to get > >>to the top side bolts from the top). Pulling it out is no fun either, > >>in theses transverse mounted situations, there is barely enough space to > >>do it and it first has to come straight out then a bit of a tilt before > >>coming down, all the while permanent crap like air conditioning hoses > >>keep getting in your way. Of course you could take them out, but then > >>you have to put it back and evacuate/re-charge the cooling system, not fun. > >> > >>Compare that to a RWD, where I've never run into anything remotely > >>resembling the difficulty of a FWD tranny replacement. Its pretty much > >>a simple shaft loosening, hose and linkage removal, followed by dropping > >>the tranny, no suspension hacking, no wheel/brake/air conditioning/air > >>intake stuff ever. > >> > >>Give me a RWD job any time. > >> > >> > >>>Some are a major pain in the ass. Others are a piece of cake. Of both > >>>types. > >>> > >>>Which ones have you worked on? > >>> > >> > >>Mini-vans are the worst FWD, small cars can be real bad. American are > >>worse than foreign. > >> > >>For RWD, like I've said, never ran into a hard one. Trucks are a joy. > >> > >>Never done a 4WD yet. > >> > >> > >>>Godfrey > >>> > >> > >>-- > >>Someone handed me a picture and said, "This is a picture of me when I > >>was younger." Every picture of you is when you were younger. "...Here's > >>a picture of me when I'm older." Where'd you get that camera man? > >>- Mitch Hedberg > >> > >>-- > >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>PDML@pdml.net > >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
