Don't apologise to JC O'Connell.

He is a boring little nitwit who comes onto the list every six months or  
so to wind himself into a frenzy over the lack of full support for very  
old lenses.

After abusing anyone who disagrees with him (sample: "Gimme a friggin  
break with your "you don?t own a pentax (sic) DSLR So (sic) you don?t know  
what youre (sic) talking about" B.S.").

Eventually, after about a dozen posts, this one-issue idiot has an  
apoplectic fit, and shuts up for another six months while he recovers.   
Then the cycle starts all over again.

John





On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:49:13 +0100, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I know that now.
>> From now on I will look for limitations in my equipment.
>
> JCO.
> Sorry about my sarcastic reply. The compatibility could have been solved
> better, I agree on that.
> But I prefer looking forward, looking for solutions instead of beating  
> this
> dead horse. I don't believe irritation over this minor issue (for me)  
> will
> make me a better photographer.
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  
> J.
> C. O'Connell
> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:34
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>
> Why settle for shit for no reason?
> Glass is still definitely half empty.
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Tim Øsleby
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>
> I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong
> [slapping myself happily over forehead].
>
> The glass is half empty, not half full.
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> J.
> C. O'Connell
> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:03
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>
> No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line camera would be
> A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this is
> Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement...
> Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE
> With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is not done.
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Tim Øsleby
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>
> Welcome onboard David.
>
> I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses
> before I
> tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using it, you
> will get used to it.
> In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the
> light.
> If lighting changes you need to re push the button every now and then to
> make sure to get the exposure right before the decisive moment.
>
> Lack of matrix metering is a bit frustrating. But in most situations you
> can
> get around it using the histogram fine tuning the exposure. It's the
> same as
> the green button thing. You need to think a bit ahead, being prepared
> for
> the decisive moment.
>
> But what can you expect. Consider the ability to use old lenses as an
> extra
> bonus.
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> David Bliss
> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 10:01
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last few
> weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself.  I'm a
> long
> time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first DSLR. I
> was
> minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced...
>
> I have a lot of manual-aperture K-mount glass, so being able to use it
> on
> a new DSLR is important to me.  I know there are workarounds for using
> such on the K100D but they're pretty bad (metering on DOF-preview only
> and/or manually setting aperture to match the lens's).
>
> The dpreview page
> (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page2.asp)
> and a few other verbatim copies thereof explicitly says
> "Ability to use lens aperture ring" so I was very excitted to think that
> Pentax would have finally fixed this (idiotic) design error on the K10D.
>
> But, the press photos of the K10D clearly show an absence of a
> mechanical
> aperture coupling lever.  And the (mis)released manual from a couple of
> days ago documents the same behavior as the K100D.  Can anyone confirm
> this for sure one was or the other?
>
> Also, can anyone explain to me why the K100D (and apparently the K10D)
> disable
> (a) non-central AF sensors (for focus confirmation, not AF, obviously)
> and
> (b) all the metering modes except CWA when using a pre-A lens?  I cannot
> conceive of any possible reason these features would care about the lens
> aperture being set manually.
>
> Thanks!
> David Bliss
>
>



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