Of course, 50% of those lenses you refer to are 50mm f2's sitting in a 
shoebox with a K1000 somewhere.

-Adam

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> Oh Screw You. You don’t have a clue if you think that legacy
> Lens support is only a minor issue. And like an
> Idiot it's NOT the age of the lenses it's WHAT
> The PK/PKM lenses are, which are superb MANUAL
> Focus lenses which are not even available new
> Anymore so there is great reason to support them.
> AGE IS IRRELAVANT. There are MORE PK/PKM lenses
> In existence than all other lens series combined so
> MOST Pentax BRAND lenses are not fully supported. That’s
> Not good by any standards....This is a Pentax support
> Issue, not a compatability issue which really sucks
> IMHO. If yours differs, so be it, but you cannot
> Prove your points by calling me an idiot, it just
> Makes you look like an idiot in doing so..
> Jco
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> John Forbes
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
> 
> Don't apologise to JC O'Connell.
> 
> He is a boring little nitwit who comes onto the list every six months or
> 
> so to wind himself into a frenzy over the lack of full support for very
> 
> old lenses.
> 
> After abusing anyone who disagrees with him (sample: "Gimme a friggin  
> break with your "you don?t own a pentax (sic) DSLR So (sic) you don?t
> know  
> what youre (sic) talking about" B.S.").
> 
> Eventually, after about a dozen posts, this one-issue idiot has an  
> apoplectic fit, and shuts up for another six months while he recovers.
> 
> Then the cycle starts all over again.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:49:13 +0100, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I know that now.
>>> From now on I will look for limitations in my equipment.
>> JCO.
>> Sorry about my sarcastic reply. The compatibility could have been
> solved
>> better, I agree on that.
>> But I prefer looking forward, looking for solutions instead of beating
> 
>> this
>> dead horse. I don't believe irritation over this minor issue (for me)
> 
>> will
>> make me a better photographer.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of  
>> J.
>> C. O'Connell
>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:34
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>>
>> Why settle for shit for no reason?
>> Glass is still definitely half empty.
>> jco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
>> Tim Øsleby
>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>>
>> I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong
>> [slapping myself happily over forehead].
>>
>> The glass is half empty, not half full.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
>> J.
>> C. O'Connell
>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:03
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>>
>> No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line camera would be
>> A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this
> is
>> Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement...
>> Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE
>> With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is not done.
>> jco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
>> Tim Øsleby
>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:46 AM
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>>
>> Welcome onboard David.
>>
>> I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses
>> before I
>> tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using it,
> you
>> will get used to it.
>> In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the
>> light.
>> If lighting changes you need to re push the button every now and then
> to
>> make sure to get the exposure right before the decisive moment.
>>
>> Lack of matrix metering is a bit frustrating. But in most situations
> you
>> can
>> get around it using the histogram fine tuning the exposure. It's the
>> same as
>> the green button thing. You need to think a bit ahead, being prepared
>> for
>> the decisive moment.
>>
>> But what can you expect. Consider the ability to use old lenses as an
>> extra
>> bonus.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
>> David Bliss
>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 10:01
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last
> few
>> weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself.  I'm
> a
>> long
>> time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first DSLR.
> I
>> was
>> minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced...
>>
>> I have a lot of manual-aperture K-mount glass, so being able to use it
>> on
>> a new DSLR is important to me.  I know there are workarounds for using
>> such on the K100D but they're pretty bad (metering on DOF-preview only
>> and/or manually setting aperture to match the lens's).
>>
>> The dpreview page
>> (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page2.asp)
>> and a few other verbatim copies thereof explicitly says
>> "Ability to use lens aperture ring" so I was very excitted to think
> that
>> Pentax would have finally fixed this (idiotic) design error on the
> K10D.
>> But, the press photos of the K10D clearly show an absence of a
>> mechanical
>> aperture coupling lever.  And the (mis)released manual from a couple
> of
>> days ago documents the same behavior as the K100D.  Can anyone confirm
>> this for sure one was or the other?
>>
>> Also, can anyone explain to me why the K100D (and apparently the K10D)
>> disable
>> (a) non-central AF sensors (for focus confirmation, not AF, obviously)
>> and
>> (b) all the metering modes except CWA when using a pre-A lens?  I
> cannot
>> conceive of any possible reason these features would care about the
> lens
>> aperture being set manually.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> David Bliss
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 


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